As much as I hate to say this

[07DCwhiteSR5]

FWIW we have some BFG G Force something or others on thebenz....were perfect and quiet when first installed but they are wearing uneven in the rear (cant rotate tires, wider rims in back) and getting noisey again....not nearly as bad as the stock mich'lins were...

my point is, between the stock BFGs i have on the Tundra that are wearing out too darn fast for my own taste and the BFGs we have on the benz...i aint gonna do another one...

probally going to go with a kuhmo tire on anything else from here on out...they are cheap so if they wear out faster who really cares?

[seadragon]

Hmmm... sounds like everyone has different experience and opinions on tires.

I had Revos and I just replaced them with AT2s a couple of weeks ago. The Revos were good when new, but went downhill very fast. I didn't even get 2 years out of them. They had 22,000 miles on them and were down to 5/32 tread (from 11/32 new). They were slipping easily in wet conditions and became very noisy (especially when turning), to the point where I thought there was something wrong with my axles.

The AT2s so far seem very good and from what I've read, they'll last longer. They are quiet and are perfectly balanced.

I considered the BFGs, but I wanted a tire with a straight tread pattern with good water channels. The AT2s fit the bill nicely.

I probably would have gone with the new MS2 but they won't be available here until the spring and I couldn't wait that long.

[mikeincali64]

I have had no such issues with my BFG's. On my previous Tacoma, I had 32's and they lasted forever (50K). On the Tundra they don't shake like you guys are describing. But I will tell you all this, they hook up excellent in the sand. I run in the Glamis sand dunes, and I can climb some of the steepest race hills with a bone stock truck with the exception of wheels and tires. This is not bad considering most everything else climbing hills like this is running paddle tires.

I am sorry to hear that some of us are not happy because these tires are far from cheap.

[TundraBay]

I plan for my next trip to bring an AC compressor, so I can air up the tires after running in the sand. Unfortunately I need 65 PSI when I haul my trailer, and with the little 12 v plug in compressor it would take a day to reinflate the tires if I aired them down like I should for sand. Last trip I used the winch, and pulled myself (with trailer hooked on) through about 100 feet of very soft sand. One other time I sprayed down the beach with water and was able to get through much better. But I can appreciate that less air pressure will allow a much wider footprint, therefore less sinking into the sand.

sorry I'm derailing here. Rock, maybe your tires were from a bad batch? I have heard of people having bummer Michelins, as well as others, but probably now you've put on enough miles they're not going to give you much.

You know it could of course be advertising, but here where I see lots of "bush trucks", prospectors, mining guys, logging supply trucks EVERY ONE has the same tires: BFG AT T/A KO and they're all getting 40-50 K miles (up to about 80,000 Km) before they replace them. The tires aren't cheap, but one other thing I really appreciate is I put them on, leave them on summer and winter, and don't worry about the changing them at all. I got 4 years out of the last set (on my Dodge) and figure I've got another year to go on these.

[Fromanhb]

I disagree that the BFG A/T KO's are obsolete. Yes they are hard to balance on the Tundra (I have stacks of weights up to 3 high on the inside of my rim) but I got them balanced after bitching.

The tread pattern is top notch; the siping on the tread is the most aggressive I've seen on stock A/T tires. These puppies grip like crazy in the dirt, and are quiet on the road.

The 10-ply sidewall is also a plus; they help tremendously when airing down and are very resilient to sidewall bulges.

Properly balanced BFG's should last easily 50K miles. I have a pair of 35's on my last truck that had half tread left after 45K miles.

[rockstate45]

Yeah, I've had 'em balanced by two Toyota dealerships, NTB (Most recently), Big10 and Best Tire and Auto.

No luck really with either of 'em but the Toyota dealership back home did it the best.

The tires are new (as of about 2 years ago haha) so they're good to go.

I found out about the plant closing in 'Bama this morning during my accounting class. If I would have know when they closed, I would have personally driven there and gotten some sort of pro-rated setup.

The lugs on the KO are great and I don't think they're obsolete. If they were obsolete, why would so many others have the same kind of setup.. Parnelli Jones Dirt Grips, the Cooper Discoverer ST, Mastercraft tires, and the biggest immitator of them all, the General Grabber AT/2.

I'm disappointed but only in the treadwear and balancing.

-rockstate

[Only Toyota for me]

Originally Posted by rockstate45

TB, reviews like yours are why I chose to buy these tires.

Their off-road traction (traction in general) is excellent in almost all cases (adn the soft sand is still better than stock, but you're rolling on narrower tires...). The longevity is why I bought 'em, expecting to get at lesat 60K at the worst case.

I'm down to about 4/32s in the middle of the fronts and probably 6/32s in the rear.

-rockstate

If they're wearing in the center of the tire, you are running too much air in them.

The balancing issue is a big issue with the BFG's and has been for a few years now. My dad's tire store hates them, as they have to rotate them 90 degrees so they aren't putting 10 lbs of weight on them.
My past experiences with them are they are probably one of the best in sand, dirt, ice and snow. But they suck big time in the mud; they tend to ball up on you too easily. I've also decided that i will not put them on any wheel that can't have weights on both sides of the wheel, on the outside of the rim. My wife's 4-runner is running these tires, and not one single balancing issue. Smooth as silk at any speed, and they're wearing very nicely. Actually, i should say they're NOT wearing much at all. I run 40 psi all around on the runner, and it seems perfect.

I'm like you though RS; i really like the tires most of the time. But i won't put them on my tundra due to the wheel design.

[Henry T]

Originally Posted by mxsjw

Sorry to hear it.
My experience is completely reversed. I've had nothing but great luck with the BFG ATs. Had them twice on my previous truck, both sets went more than 70k with no issues. The current set on my Tundra have been great, are at 40k, and look like they'll go another 30 to 40.
I've looked up reviews and they mostly get top scores, sounds like a bad set to me.

Agree never a problem and over the years have owned 4 sets. Sounds like the OP is getting poor quality service and tires are probalby not being balanced properly. Or maybe that big fence on the front of his truck is causing/adding to the problem.

LOL at the guy who decides to "cross them off his list" cause one guy on the internets says they are no good at this time, but raved about them earlier. Go figure.

[Only Toyota for me]

Originally Posted by Henry T

Agree never a problem and over the years have owned 4 sets. Sounds like the OP is getting poor quality service and tires are probalby not being balanced properly. Or maybe that big fence on the front of his truck is causing/adding to the problem.

LOL at the guy who decides to "cross them off his list" cause one guy on the internets says they are no good at this time, but raved about them earlier. Go figure.

I have to somewhat agree with you on the first comment.

But who are you talking about on the second comment? I sure hope it's not myself, as i was only talking about MY personal experiences with the tire. They're great if you can put wheel weights on the outside of the tire ( in most cases ), but with the OEM wheels you can't do this. So IMO, you're asking for trouble with balancing problems.
For your information, i have had SEVERAL sets of BFG K/O's and for the most part they're a pretty good tire. Other than their molds are old school big time now, and need to be updated.

[ballin]

another happy owner of bfg's. i have the 305's and they are balanced well and have great wear so far. about 20k on them.

[greenfire]

Its all about the balancing.... I have been going through similar troubles with my Nokians. Long story short, the heavier the WHEEL, the more susceptable the tire is to balancing machine inaccuracies. My tire shop had to have thier balancer re-calibrated. When they balanced lighter wheels.. the slight off calibration results in no errors. With our very heavy TRD wheel the balancer needed to be calibarted perfectly. After a third balancing on a re-calibrated balancer... perfect. (At least that is what the shop owner explained to me)

So I would imagine that if the balancing isn't perfect, you are going to have crappy tire wear.

[tundra1569]

Rock sure has a point here - tires shot at 25k is not good -I´d be curious to see how long the Michelin M/S 2 will last on our trucks - they claim to give you a 70k tread warranty on those.

[Tankerhank]

I had BFGs on my '00 Tundra, D rated and I had a heck of a time getting them to balance, after awhile I had to settle for "that is as good as its going to get", I had heard lots of good things about the BFGs back then which is why I put them on. I put the Michelin ATs on this time and they have been great, smooth as silk which amazes me for E rated tires.