See page 18 amd 19. A few spy pics, pretty much what we have seen before, a little closer though.
They state the new truck, codenamed 400N, appears as big, if not bigger than Ram, F-150, even the upcoming GM 900 trucks.
At a projected 150,000 units a yr, they don't expect to steal the market from the big three, who make between 400,000 to 900,000 units each. But will likely grab a larger portion than before.
They say to expect regular, extended, and double cab versions.
No specifics on drivetrain, but stated Toyota is working on a high tourque turbodiesel to go match big-3 HD models. Also said hybrid is an expected option.
Also some of the FTX innovations will probably make it to production.
Anyway, alot we have heard before, just the first decent car mag writeup on this all new rig. Sounds pretty cool.
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2001 Tundra AC V8 4x4 TRD, Sunfire Red Pearl, Matching A.R.E. Z series cap.
If those come out in 2007, it's probably best to wait a couple of years so they work out all the bugs. I have a friend that bought a Titan the first year they came out and rue's the day.
Toyota is no stranger. I bought the 2000 Tundra TRD and have about 80k on it with absolutely ZERO problems. It has been the best truck ever and it was the first year. I would easily buy the 2007 without worrying about a thing.
See page 18 amd 19. A few spy pics, pretty much what we have seen before, a little closer though.
They state the new truck, codenamed 400N, appears as big, if not bigger than Ram, F-150, even the upcoming GM 900 trucks.
At a projected 150,000 units a yr, they don't expect to steal the market from the big three, who make between 400,000 to 900,000 units each. But will likely grab a larger portion than before.
They say to expect regular, extended, and double cab versions.
No specifics on drivetrain, but stated Toyota is working on a high tourque turbodiesel to go match big-3 HD models. Also said hybrid is an expected option.
Also some of the FTX innovations will probably make it to production.
Anyway, alot we have heard before, just the first decent car mag writeup on this all new rig. Sounds pretty cool.
In the current economic environment and with gas prices predicted to hover around the $3.00 mark for unleaded regular for the foreseable future, do you really expect a new entry into the big truck market to sell even 150,000 units? This will be a tough goal to achieve unless the commercial market comes on board in a big way and with Toyota dealerships in fewer markets than the big three, this will most likely not happen. According to a previous post, the Tundra in its present form only sells around that number per year. So Toyota expects to sell a bigger truck, at a higher price, and probably less fuel efficient at a volume equal to or greater than their current sales? Maybe they know more about supply and demand than most in the auto industry. I'm afraid they will be a victim of the "right product at the wrong time" unless conditions change dramatically irregrardless of the styling, quality, and features of the 2007 models.
In the current economic environment and with gas prices predicted to hover around the $3.00 mark for unleaded regular for the foreseable future, do you really expect a new entry into the big truck market to sell even 150,000 units? This will be a tough goal to achieve unless the commercial market comes on board in a big way and with Toyota dealerships in fewer markets than the big three, this will most likely not happen. According to a previous post, the Tundra in its present form only sells around that number per year. So Toyota expects to sell a bigger truck, at a higher price, and probably less fuel efficient at a volume equal to or greater than their current sales? Maybe they know more about supply and demand than most in the auto industry. I'm afraid they will be a victim of the "right product at the wrong time" unless conditions change dramatically irregrardless of the styling, quality, and features of the 2007 models.
The reason I bought an 05 AC SR5 2wd instead of waiting for the 07 is I don't want a truck that big, it will cost more , use more gas, to get the bigger V8 you will have to pay way more and this new model will be much heavier.
I wanted a fast,ultra smooth,and well built(end of model life are the best built vehicles)and I got it.
In the current economic environment and with gas prices predicted to hover around the $3.00 mark for unleaded regular for the foreseable future, do you really expect a new entry into the big truck market to sell even 150,000 units? This will be a tough goal to achieve unless the commercial market comes on board in a big way and with Toyota dealerships in fewer markets than the big three, this will most likely not happen. According to a previous post, the Tundra in its present form only sells around that number per year. So Toyota expects to sell a bigger truck, at a higher price, and probably less fuel efficient at a volume equal to or greater than their current sales? Maybe they know more about supply and demand than most in the auto industry. I'm afraid they will be a victim of the "right product at the wrong time" unless conditions change dramatically irregrardless of the styling, quality, and features of the 2007 models.
I'm inclined to agree... .
Considering the current Tundra and it's competition, and the expected release of this new and BIGGER Tundra, I can't help but now question... "what"... Toyota was thinking, during the first couple of releases of the Tundra. Now, with the odds certainly stacked against them, with gas prices not expected to drop anytime soon, they are finally making an effort to basically "match" (or beat) the BIG 3, which I'm sure would include Nissan. My question is... "WHY"... didn't they do that from the very beginning, when the odds were MUCH more in their favor, as Nissan tried to do. Fact is IMHO, Toyota would have literally made anything Nissan had... "null-n-void"... if they'd chosen to do so! I think IF Toyota had played this ace to begin with, they might very well have sold MORE THAN the current 150,000 units per year. With the gas crunch now in FULL swing, I too, have serious doubts that Toyota will manage to maintain their projected goals for this all new BIGGER Tundra. Especailly with the expected increase in pricing of this new Tundra! Unfortunately, with consideration to the current economy, it may be... "to little, too late"!
But then again... that's the way of the Japanese. They don't take too many chances anymore. . They kinda'... "test the waters first", before they jump in. Even so, this is one conservative measure, which may actually cost Toyota with this new Tundra. I hope not, but I guess all we can do is, take a "wait-n-see" attitude.
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Show me a Japanese company that marks there cars up 10K .... It doesn't happen. Most have a margin of less than 3K !!!! Acura has as low as $500.00 and expects the sales person to make it up in either volume or accessory sales ! Only Domestics have that high of mark up.
Show me a Japanese company that marks there cars up 10K .... It doesn't happen. Most have a margin of less than 3K !!!! Acura has as low as $500.00 and expects the sales person to make it up in either volume or accessory sales ! Only Domestics have that high of mark up.
I think you have a point there on the markups between foriegn and domestic.....
For those who pull large travel/horse trailers, the larger more powerful truck makes plenty of sense. I work with a guy that has had two Sequoia's and loves them. When asked why he didn't buy a Tundra instead of the Chevy, he said he would have if it were beafy enough to pull his horse trailer. So there is a market for the larger unit; I just hope they keep the current model available also.
Show me a Japanese company that marks there cars up 10K .... It doesn't happen. Most have a margin of less than 3K !!!! Acura has as low as $500.00 and expects the sales person to make it up in either volume or accessory sales ! Only Domestics have that high of mark up.
Between the profit of the dealer and the company I'll bet that is possible. Not on a Corolla or Civic, but on the Sequoia, Pilot, or Tundra they could cook up a rebate like that. Toyota was the most profitable auto maker last year and they didn't even sell the most vehicles. That has to say something.
I'll bet you were talking about their non luxury brands, but the Lexus GX470 and LX470 have 7k plus profit for the dealer alone. I'm sure if the dealer gets to take 7k stab, Toyota is making more.
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You would honestly be surprised ..... Remember the import taxes duties and what not they have to pay ..... Yes the luxury cars have a little more margin on the extreme high end but the entry cars have less of a margin !!!! The high end like the LX, GX, and LS have additional taxes on them....
I've heard (can't remember from where) that Chevy makes over $25,000 profit on a loaded Suburban...maybe not too surprising when one of those beasts can cost around $50k, but geez!
Why tax one of those so much anyway? the state and feds get so much more already with the fuel tax when you fill up. You'd think they would push the gas hogs with the bite they take at the pump.
Show me a Japanese company that marks there cars up 10K .... It doesn't happen. Most have a margin of less than 3K !!!! Acura has as low as $500.00 and expects the sales person to make it up in either volume or accessory sales ! Only Domestics have that high of mark up.
07 Tundra in Nov Motor Trend
Sounds pretty cool.
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Unfortunately, with consideration to the current economy, it may be... "to little, too late"! 
My bad!
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