Oil filled from the Factory?

[mxsjw]

Originally Posted by mxsjw

I am willing to bet that the factory fill is 0w20 full synthetic with break-in additives.
But I also bet, confirming that would be next to impossible.

E90Toay,

I have a couple of questions for you after reading your last 2 posts...I just want to clarify.

Do you work for Nippon?
Is a Nippon 0w-20 filled in the 5.7 motor from the Toyota factory?
Toyota branded 0w-20 is not a Nippon oil?
If we trust who you say you are, you are confirming my above, quoted statement, right?

Thank you

[a1productions]

Originally Posted by mxsjw

E90Toay,

I have a couple of questions for you after reading your last 2 posts...I just want to clarify.

Do you work for Nippon?
Is a Nippon 0w-20 filled in the 5.7 motor from the Toyota factory?
Toyota branded 0w-20 is not a Nippon oil?
If we trust who you say you are, you are confirming my above, quoted statement, right?

Thank you

actually mxsjw e90toay did previously say that 'genuine toyota synthetic' was nippon with some coming from mobile 1.

ive been scouring the internet for the past hour trying to find out who actually makes toyotas synthetic which is what led me to this thread. everything else ive read pointed to castrol so im interested in what evidence backs up e90's nippon oil statement.

ive also heard (heard being the key word) that factory oil (dino or synthetic) could have been either depending on which plant the truck was assembled, wisconson or texas.

really would like a definitive answer on who produces toyota synthetic though cause my dealer does $49 changes using it.

[mxsjw]

What points to Castrol, I cannot find any thing that backs that up.

Toyota branded in the red bottles 0w-20 is made by Mobile.

E90Taoy is saying that the Factory fill is Nippon and sometimes the Mobile, I just want some confirmation from him/her.
I did find this on the Nippon 0w-20... Eneos USA

[djb383]

The term synthetic wasn't used anywhere.............or did I miss it?

[mxsjw]

Originally Posted by djb383

The term synthetic wasn't used anywhere.............or did I miss it?

Not used anywhere, where? The Eneos link to the spec page?

Look at the bottle pictured on that page, if that is what you are referring to...

[djb383]

I didn't see synthetic mentioned here.

Eneos USA

[faterikcartman]

There are oil testing services for consumers that are very cheap so yes, it could be determined for sure rather cheaply and easily as you just send in a small sample.

Regarding what the dealers have told people -- are you serious? They don't care, or don't know, or can't be trusted. Like mine, your dealer will probably swear up and down that it is impossible to trade out your regular mirrors for tow mirrors.

[mxsjw]

Originally Posted by djb383

I didn't see synthetic mentioned here.

Eneos USA

Says it right on the bottle pictured on that page.
Also, all Eneos oils are fully synthetic, I think Nippon assumes we all know this.
Try here, their home page...Eneos USA

[L R H]

The oils shown on the Eneos USA site are the products offered to the US consumer only; go to the Euro/Japan sites and you will see that Eneos does offer a non-syn 0w-20 to other markets, along with synthetics, semi synthetics etc. So Toyota could be using a non synthetic 0w-20 if the choose to. The fact it is not marketed in the US does not mean it does not exist. A major oil co could supply/blend someone with a 7.5w-38 if someone spec'ed it and purchased it in a sufficient quantity like shiploads downloaded into rail tanker cars. Toyota buys a lot of oil on a worldwide basis.

The US market seems to be the only market that gets the oil in qts, everywhere else it is sold in 1L, 4L, and 20L bottles/jugs. What is sold here (US) is probably bottled here from bulk shipments

[E90Toay]

Hi All
Yes, I do work for Nippon as mentioned previously. I just found this thread off an internet search so I figured I offer the information I know. You don't have to believe me, just take it as someone's opinion if you don't trust who I am.

Not ALL of a car manufacturer's oil comes from one company alone. So as far as I know, Toyota COULD have synthetics coming from Castrol (although I doubt they do). However, all the 0W-20 coming from the factory as well as the red bottle genuine oil are produced by either Nippon Oil or Mobil.

They are produced for Toyota, so it's a Toyota product, not a Nippon Oil branded or Mobil branded product. You will find a Mobil1 (Mobil brand) 0W-20 as well as our own ENEOS 0W-20 (Nippon brand). You are right though, different plants are supplied by different oil company. I believe we supply a majority of the plants except the one in south carolina (not 100% sure on locaton). That one is Mobil.

Does Nippon Oil offer conventional oil? Yes. For the ENEOS brand, there's only one synth blend in the US market (5W-30). Does Nippon Oil offer conventional 0W-20 oil? No. All 0W-20 produced are synthetic, especially the ones produced for Toyota. They mandate it.

Does dealers sometimes not know what they are talking about? Absolutely. This is by personal experience. For example, if you call a car manufacturer's customer service line directly, lets say Nissan, and ask them if using a different oil then what is recommended will void your warranty, they will tell you absolutely not. Unless they can determine that it is due to the usage of a different oil that causes whatever damage you are claiming under warranty, they cannot tell you your warranty is voided. On the other hand if you ask a dealer service writer the same question, the answer might be quite different.

One final note. Nippon Oil has our own blending plant here in the US (Childersburg Alabama) which blends the lubricants required for factory and G.O. service. However, for the ENEOS products, they are actually all bottled overseas and shipped here. The reason being we just launched this product in the US market and production is still all sourced from Japan.

[mxsjw]

Originally Posted by E90Toay

You don't have to believe me, just take it as someone's opinion if you don't trust who I am.

E90Toay,

Thank you for the wealth of information, just what I was looking for.
I, for one, trust and believe you are who you say you are and know what you say you know.
Unless someone can prove otherwise, which I doubt they can.

Thanks again...

[djb383]

Thank goodness............I'm gonna sleep better tonight as this was really bothering me.

[E90Toay]

Originally Posted by mxsjw

E90Toay,

Thank you for the wealth of information, just what I was looking for.
I, for one, trust and believe you are who you say you are and know what you say you know.
Unless someone can prove otherwise, which I doubt they can.

Thanks again...

Glad to share the info

[HOGWILD]

Carson Toyota has all ya want for $9.99 + tax per Qt+ shipping, guess it would be worth it if you were running it in a performance enhanced engine!

[gobblerman]

Guess that answers the myth of don't use synthetic till after breakin.