I am seriously consdiering a Tundra. So far, I have driven 2 of them. One was an SR5 DC 2 wheel drive with the 20" BBS wheels. It did not have the TRD package. I was impressed with the ride, it felt very sporty, but smooth at the same time. This past weekend, I went to another dealership and drove an SR5 Crewmax with the TRD package and the 18" wheels and BFG tires. The ride was much more choppier and it did appear that I felt a shutter throughout the truck when I drove over bumps in the highway. I live in Atlanta and for the most part, our highways are pretty smooth. I drove an 08 Titan 4 door, 2 wheel drive with the 20" wheels, to compare, and I have to admit that the Titan seemed to have a very buttoned down feel on the Highway. I really like the Tundra CrewMax, but not being an off-roader, I want a truck that is going to have a nice ride on the streets.
My question to you guys is how much of a difference do you think the TRD package makes on the ride quality over a Tundra without the stiffer springs? Or is there a difference between the double cab and the CrewMax in terms of rdie quality?
There is a different in ride quality from Trd off road to the reg setup. Trd is much firmer rate shocks and springs and for Atlanta we don't need that since our roads aren't the smoothest In the country.
Yes the crew max does ride a little bit different in my freinds truck vs the Double cab but it's not the big of deal unless you tow and you can feel the big differenc from each model. Oh by the way avoid Marietta Toyota and Cobb and Cherokee they suck go to Sandy springs..
I got my Shurtrax All-Weather Traction Aid yesterday. It took about 10 minutes to fill up and it fits perfectly between the wheel wells. I have some bunjie cords holding it in at each corner but am going to get some nice tie downs for it. It definately toned down the bounce factor some on the freeway whoop-dee-doos and makes the rear end feel more stable in all conditions. It did not totally get rid of the bounce on the worst freeway spots but it rides a lot better now. I would recomend this thing to anyone who wants to load up thier rear suspension for a smoother ride and added traction. I am not really sure how the 400 lbs. additional weight will affect my gas milage...only time will tell I guess.
My friend thought it was a waterbed for a dog. Actually if you lay on it it does feel really nice on your back because the water heats up to the perfect temperature. The exterior material is like a soft top on a BMW...very durable looking. We put my freinds 50 lb. amplifier on top of it after we played a party last night and when we got to his house the amp had not moved and inch. I paid about $90.00 on amazon and it arrived at my door in about 7 days. Here is a link: Amazon.com: ShurTrax LW-0056 All Weather Traction Aid for Full Size Pickup Trucks/SUVs: Automotive
I just made a trip into California yesterday on I-10. The freeway in Banning Pass has a stretch of road between Banning and Beaumont that will shake the fillings out of your teeth...all concrete with 10' expansion joints. My Silverado used to beat me to death for about 10 miles. After reading all these horror stories about bed-bounce, I was worried about my Tundra coming unglued. I was pleasantly surprised when my Tundra did 100% better than my old Chevy. It was still bumpy, but watching the bed in my mirrors I could see only a small amount of bed-bounce...nothing like I expected, and a lot less than the Silverado. I have a 2wd, non-TRD, Short Bed and run 35psi in all tires. I have a Delta toolbox mounted in the front of the bed that probably adds about 1-200 lbs. I must say it was nice to get back to Arizona and smoothly cruise @ 75mph. By the way, averaged 18.8 mpg for the trip.
__________________ '07 Tundra SR5, 2WD DC, 5.7L, Salsa Red Pearl with Running Boards, Delta Toolbox.
Double Military Wrapped Eye-letes on the front of the leaf springs.
Call Deaver Springs. Fixed my bounce I had. (My 03' Has 55 ft lbs of torque on the bed bolts. )
Then Upgrade the Bed bolts or Torque them down more!
If that doesn't work its a design flaw somewhere.
Toyota Leaf Springs are stiff. Especially these new ones that are for hauling/carrying big loads for all the 10K + hype and Load Capacities.
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03' Access Cab Toyota Tundra V-8 4.7L, 4x4
305/70/16 BFG Muds on 4" B/S Wheelers' Offroad Steel Rims
Donahoe Racing Coilovers (cranked 2.5")
Total Chaos Upper Control Arms and Rack Bushings.
ORS upper mount shock hoop kit / FOX Racing 2.0" Reservoir 11" travel shocks w/ Deaver G57 10 pack rear springs
ARB Sahara Bumper with Fog Light Kit and KC SlimLites in Front
Yeah I just got the Double Cab and it bounces like a tuning fork. I almost bit my tongue when driving down the road. It sucks that it is a new truck and we all have to buy crap to put it in the bed and affect the gas mileage of this truck. Toyota needs to do the responsible thing and assign a fix ASAP.
Just drove my brother-in-laws Lincoln 2007 Mark LT pickup over the same concrete roads that my 2007 Tundra 5.7CM bounces over the bumps....the Mark LT was smooth and quiet...no bounce...and no rear end vibration or resonance. Don’t get me wrong I love my Tundra…and would never switch to the Lincoln…but the vibration and resonance that my Tundra has is real…and in my opinion should be addressed by Toyota….I’m taking my to the dealer to let them know about the issue…that way at least they can get it into their computers if Toyota ever comes-a-callin.
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Cool. Nice to hear that. I was thinking about installing one of those, but I wasn't sure if I should wait till my suspension settle's down a little bit. I was just looking underneath the truck this afternoon and the part of the frame where the bed is mounted does move or flex. I laid on my back, I put my feet against the left frame, next to the bumper and pushed it up. It lifted the left side frame more than the right side. So the sway bar will prevent that and instead it will lift both sides of the frame at the same time. I'm putting one on order tonight.
I had a 2000 SR-5 and added a cheap helwing (sp) swaybar and it made a world of difference. The first thing i noticed about my new crewmax was the bodyroll on corners. Not sure if a sway bar will help with bed bounce, but it was worth the investment on the 2000 model to reduce body roll and I expect it will be worth it on the 07. Wait a few months and someone like Summit Racing will offer it for $120 if they have not already.
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I had a 2000 SR-5 and added a cheap helwing (sp) swaybar and it made a world of difference. The first thing i noticed about my new crewmax was the bodyroll on corners. Not sure if a sway bar will help with bed bounce, but it was worth the investment on the 2000 model to reduce body roll and I expect it will be worth it on the 07. Wait a few months and someone like Summit Racing will offer it for $120 if they have not already.
I installed the sway bar last month. Not much help on my bed bounce. I also replace the overload springs with a 3-leaf softer springs. The ride quality is better now but the bounce is still there. My next step now is to install a tow hitch, preferably the one from Toyota or if I can find a beefier one. Hopefully this will stiffen the frames to reduce the bounce.
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I installed the sway bar last month. Not much help on my bed bounce. I also replace the overload springs with a 3-leaf softer springs. The ride quality is better now but the bounce is still there. My next step now is to install a tow hitch, preferably the one from Toyota or if I can find a beefier one. Hopefully this will stiffen the frames to reduce the bounce.
I doubt that Hitch is going to help either but it's a nice try.The new 07 Hitch is frame mounted and much better you must have the sport package.
I've seen this video a few times all i can say is Toyota still has room for improvements thus why I wouldn't subject myself to first Gen issues No way been there once . don't have a lot of faith on Toyota on a ground up redesign I know they take too dam long on fixes 3 year's on the brakes on the first gen was a Joke. Another issue that faces Tundra is Frame isn't really all that good Ford still produces a better towing platform vs Toyota I still think Toyota need's to step up and offer something in term's of Hd towing platform because the Tundra still lack's somethings. The Tundra still holds the title on best in everything for 1/2 truck but everybody else will be playing catch up the Tundra Might fail on it's postion later on.
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I have had my '07 DC Sport for about 4 months and have been irritated constantly by the bed bounce. I rode around this week-end with my Blue Ox equalizer hitch installed in the receiver hitch. The hitch weighs about 70 pounds and, by gum, all of the annoying bed bounce was gone. I'm sure that having 70 pounds hanging two feet past the bumper is not a solution you'll like, but at least it works.
Now I just need a way to put 70 "pretty" pounds in the receiver hitch.
I have been following a GMC board for awhile because they have the same problem with freeway bounce. A guy finally installed the Sulastic rubber spring shackles and here is what he said ....
"Here is my report. In a nutshell they did help...
The truck is still very stiff and the bounce is still somewhat there. It has dampened the bounce quite a bit not did not remove it completely. I would say that it removed about 50%-75% of the bounce and at higher speeds it improved the handling a lot more.
The truck still feels like it would benefit from more weight in the back. On speed bumps the truck still rides stiff when you go over them slow but go over it fast and it absorbs it very well, much better than before. On a rough road it smooths it out, I would not use the word silky but more like the handling of the front suspension.
The bumps on the freeway were the biggest concern and it did not smooth them out as much as I had hoped for, the truck is still very stiff and may need to be worked in a bit more but I don't know.
Was it worth the $400 plus labor? I would say depends on if you can afford it, if it doesn't bug you then don't spend it, if you can't stand the bouncing then go for it, it will help some.
Lowering the truck does look much nicer and set the weight back a little but again it feels like a light rear end when driving. May put a few cinder blocks in tonight and try again.
I was hoping for better but at this point I will not return it because it does improve the ride all around and for $400 having a better ride all around is well worth it to me as I plan to drive this thing until it dies. "
my bounce has been greatly softened by adding my shell and breaking in a little, though i'm considering Sulastic since that with my shell may make it a Cadillac without losing any payload.
Deaver Springs in Santa Ana, CA have softer springs for our trucks for those that want to have a comfy ride. However, you'll loose some payload capacity. $670 per pair AND the shackles have to be replaced with their Total Chaos Shackle for $105.99. I don't have the details regarding ride height and how much payload capacity is lost with these springs but I'll find out tomorrow when I talk to them. I just did a quick email inquiry. Air Lift Co has an Air Bag leveling kit for our trucks.
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According to Scott Born of Deaver Springs the ride height will increase to 2 inches with these springs. They have the springs in stock. Can be purchased directly from them or thru their dealers.
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'07 Tundra SR5, 2WD DC, 5.7L, Salsa Red Pearl with Running Boards, Delta Toolbox.
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