Toyota Tundra Forums banner

1 - 20 of 81 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
66 Posts
Discussion Starter #1 (Edited)
Time to "give back"...

I've been mostly researching (lurking) on this forum, with a few posts and PMs as I planned and designed my lift. I bought this truck in 2014 with the intention of using it as a family overlanding rig. I went into it knowing that 2nd Gen Sequoias are a booger to build into a reasonably serious offroader, but my 3 kids are all adult-sized, and our typical 3-7 day outings require a lot of gear/food/water. Additionally, we generally go long distances to our adventures, and so highway comfort is just as important as off-road functionality. I tried a 2012 Ford F250 Diesel Crew Cab, but it was way too big to go some places we wanted to go. Sweet truck, but not the right tool for the job. I also had a '98 3/4-ton Suburban for quite a while. Also decent, but not right for us, and started to require lot's of maintenance.

For all those reasons, we went with the Sequoia, and have been pretty happy with it. You get A LOT of truck for your money buying these things used. But, we quickly outpaced it's stock capability. Here we are last year in Colorado...



I'm running about 1000# of gear when we're loaded for the back country (gear, water, food, fuel), plus about 750# of bodies (mostly my fault). That's after refining some gear to shave weight, but we're also working on trimming more weight as we come up with creative solutions including on-the-fly resupply. Yeah, I know we're well over the truck's load capacity, but I have talked to Toyota and various off-roading professionals, and given the truck's towing capacities, and the specifics of our upgrades, we're confident that the truck can handle what we're doing with it.

So, after much research, and helpful input from Stom_m3, MtnClimber, and Tip Toe Over The Mt. (sorry if I'm forgetting anyone who provided suggestions), and expert guidance from Sierra Expeditions in Mesa, AZ (among others), this is what we looked like on this year's trip to Colorado.



Here's what we've done to date:
Leather steering wheel cover (the steering wheel was pretty sun-baked when I got it)
Baja Rack Mega Mule (mounts right to the stock cross members)
Front rotors - DBA Brake Rotors Street Series T2 (2724S)
Front pads - Hawk Truck/SUV Brake Pads (HB589P.704) SuperDuty Brake Pads
Tires - Nitto RidgeGrappler LT285/75R17E (incl spare) (33.8")
Wheels - KMC XD Series Turbine 17x9 5x150 +18 OS (incl spare)
SPC Front Upper Control Arms (model 25490)
Custom rear springs from Coil Springs Specialties +57% +3.00"
Radflo 2.5″ Front Coil-over (Eibach Springs) with 7/8" shaft
Radflo 2.5" custom rear shocks with 7/8" shaft, remote reservoir and custom mounts (apparently there are two different mounts on these rigs, and I have the less common of the two)
[FONT=&quot]Bushwacker 30912-02 Toyota OE Style Fender Flare[/FONT]
LED bulbs throughout the cabin and doors


The astute viewer will note that we painted the chrome grille black (satin black trim paint and appropriate primer from an auto paint supply store), and also blacked out all the badges (Plasti-dip). While the fender flares came in black, we painted them to prevent fading, and to match the grille and trim.

Due to challenges with the shock mounts, we took delivery from Sierra Expeditions (they're great btw) the day before departing for Colorado. Had just enough time to run out to the desert to test it a bit, and then home to load up.

Bottom line, we LOVE it. It performed better than I imagined, even fully loaded...
Rides fantastic on the highway, less bouncy than factory, but not "trucky" (like the F250 and Suburban).
Tires are surprisingly quiet for what's basically an AT/MT hybrid, ride great on the pavement, and performed superbly off-road (dirt, gravel, lots of mud, and wet rock faces in precarious circumstances). The 33.8" fits in the spare-well (very tightly), but is now my low point (12" clearance).
The lift came out about 3" in the front, and 5" in the rear. I'm expecting the rear will settle a bit as I really only want 1-1.5" rake and hope it will level when loaded (Coil Springs engineers expected <1" rear end drop when fully loaded).

I've tried to be thorough, but feel free to ping me with questions.
 

Attachments

·
Registered
Joined
·
66 Posts
Discussion Starter #2 (Edited)
More pictures...

Picking up at the shop:


Added fender flares:


We did the Alpine Loop out of Silverton, CO including 6 passes, and hiked a 14er in 4 days. Engineer Pass, Cinnamon Pass, California Pass, Hurricane Pass, Corkscrew Pass (required some multi-point turns on the swithcbacks) and Imogene Pass. Several very tight spots as most of these are not optimized for full-sized rigs.











Recommended High Clearance, Four Wheel Drive, Short Wheelbase...Aw heck, two outa three ain't bad, so close enough...


Yes, the roads were very tight, with little room for error.


Epic trip!

Check us out on IG "@n2thewildoverland"
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
17 Posts
Great to find a build on a sequoia. i have one in the works. Also a long time lurker.

My wife has a 2017 Lexus LX 570 and I would rather travel in my Sequoia.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
17 Posts
Here are some pics of mine. Not trying to hijack your thread. Mine started out as a 2008 Platinum.

Gobi roof rack -Stealth
4-direction LED lights
ICI Bumper (for Tundra modified to fit)
Kevlar finish (adds ~100lbs weight but scratch resistant)
Revtek leveling kit (2" lift in front with rear adjustment of air suspension)
Added a 2" receiver to the front for road feeder used for hunting in Texas
Insulated doors which makes a big difference for interior noise
Powder coated factory rims. Full size spare fits underneath (surprisingly)
Turtleback trailer mounted behind - bought matching rims for trailer off eBay so all are interchangeable



 

·
Registered
Joined
·
196 Posts
Time to "give back"...

I've been mostly researching (lurking) on this forum, with a few posts and PMs as I planned and designed my lift. I bought this truck in 2014 with the intention of using it as a family overlanding rig. I went into it knowing that 2nd Gen Sequoias are a booger to build into a reasonably serious offroader, but my 3 kids are all adult-sized, and our typical 3-7 day outings require a lot of gear/food/water. Additionally, we generally go long distances to our adventures, and so highway comfort is just as important as off-road functionality. I tried a 2012 Ford F250 Diesel Crew Cab, but it was way too big to go some places we wanted to go. Sweet truck, but not the right tool for the job. I also had a '98 3/4-ton Suburban for quite a while. Also decent, but not right for us, and started to require lot's of maintenance.

For all those reasons, we went with the Sequoia, and have been pretty happy with it. You get A LOT of truck for your money buying these things used. But, we quickly outpaced it's stock capability. Here we are last year in Colorado...



I'm running about 1000# of gear when we're loaded for the back country (gear, water, food, fuel), plus about 750# of bodies (mostly my fault). That's after refining some gear to shave weight, but we're also working on trimming more weight as we come up with creative solutions including on-the-fly resupply. Yeah, I know we're well over the truck's load capacity, but I have talked to Toyota and various off-roading professionals, and given the truck's towing capacities, and the specifics of our upgrades, we're confident that the truck can handle what we're doing with it.

So, after much research, and helpful input from Stom_m3, MtnClimber, and Tip Toe Over The Mt. (sorry if I'm forgetting anyone who provided suggestions), and expert guidance from Sierra Expeditions in Mesa, AZ (among others), this is what we looked like on this year's trip to Colorado.



Here's what we've done to date:
Leather steering wheel cover (the steering wheel was pretty sun-baked when I got it)
Baja Rack Mega Mule (mounts right to the stock cross members)
Front rotors - DBA Brake Rotors Street Series T2 (2724S)
Front pads - Hawk Truck/SUV Brake Pads (HB589P.704) SuperDuty Brake Pads
Tires - Nitto RidgeGrappler LT285/75R17E (incl spare) (33.8")
Wheels - KMC XD Series Turbine 17x9 5x150 +18 OS (incl spare)
SPC Front Upper Control Arms (model 25490)
Custom rear springs from Coil Springs Specialties +57% +3.00"
Radflo 2.5″ Front Coil-over (Eibach Springs) with 7/8" shaft
Radflo 2.5" custom rear shocks with 7/8" shaft, remote reservoir and custom mounts (apparently there are two different mounts on these rigs, and I have the less common of the two)
[FONT=&quot]Bushwacker 30912-02 Toyota OE Style Fender Flare[/FONT]
LED bulbs throughout the cabin and doors


The astute viewer will note that we painted the chrome grille black (satin black trim paint and appropriate primer from an auto paint supply store), and also blacked out all the badges (Plasti-dip). While the fender flares came in black, we painted them to prevent fading, and to match the grille and trim.

Due to challenges with the shock mounts, we took delivery from Sierra Expeditions (they're great btw) the day before departing for Colorado. Had just enough time to run out to the desert to test it a bit, and then home to load up.

Bottom line, we LOVE it. It performed better than I imagined, even fully loaded...
Rides fantastic on the highway, less bouncy than factory, but not "trucky" (like the F250 and Suburban).
Tires are surprisingly quiet for what's basically an AT/MT hybrid, ride great on the pavement, and performed superbly off-road (dirt, gravel, lots of mud, and wet rock faces in precarious circumstances). The 33.8" fits in the spare-well (very tightly), but is now my low point (12" clearance).
The lift came out about 3" in the front, and 5" in the rear. I'm expecting the rear will settle a bit as I really only want 1-1.5" rake and hope it will level when loaded (Coil Springs engineers expected <1" rear end drop when fully loaded).

I've tried to be thorough, but feel free to ping me with questions.


Nicely done! I really liked how everything turned out. A couple of questions for you;
- You have a 5" lift in the rear. What is your overall shock extension/compression height? Did Radflo custom make the shocks for you? How's the dampening? Do you feel like you are topping out the shock on bumps?
- You mentioned 2 types of mounts. Were you referring to the external reservoirs or shock mounts?
- Ridge grapplers are probably going to be my next tires. How do you like them?


Time to get those rock sliders. I also recommend a skid for the plastic gas tank. Look forward to seeing more pictures. Unfortunately, Photobucket changed their policy and my pics no longer display. I'm going to have to speak to the mods about trying to correct. it.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
108 Posts
Want to start of by saying, NICE RIG !!!!

Question about your custom springs, how do well do they perform? I would be interested in seeing your rig, are you located in AZ ? I really want rear springs, but can't find them anywhere online :|


Thanks,
David
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
196 Posts
Also, can you take a pic of the front and rear suspension. I'd like to see how they look. Thanks! Let's see some off-roading pics!


I was just in Phoenix visiting my sister. Would have loved to check it out as well. We will have to coordinate something next time I'm there.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
66 Posts
Discussion Starter #8
Hey dworrel, pretty badass looking rig. I've got a front bumper on my shortlist, so it's good to see the ICI on yours. I plan to do a skid plate package and some custom sliders are next up for us.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
66 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
[FONT=&quot]Hey Stom. Thanks for the feedback! And I expected some great questions from you. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]I’m out of town this week, but here are a few answers:

[/FONT] [FONT=&quot] - Total change in ride height in the rear is 5 “. I give 1” to tires since we went from 32” stock, so the springs are giving me 4” and will hopefully settle a tad as I think they’re affecting my camber a bit…but I like the height! [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
I don’t know the overall shock extension/compression height. Is that a spec, or something you’d measure? I’m assuming it’s a measurement, so I’ll need to get it jacked up when I get home and see what we get.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
Yes, Radflo did the customization, but I worked with Will at Sierra Expeditions. He has a great relationship with them and did all the coordination. They were slow to build, but the results are stellar. Dampening is great – there are some stretches of highway from Gallup to Shiprock that are like whoop-de-dos and last year I remember feeling like we were at sea as we bounced along after each set. This year we just absorbed them. No bouncing at all, and with the aggressive spring rate, that was a big concern. Even unloaded, I find the dampening to be better than stock. As for topping out, that hasn’t been an issue. We bottomed out on a bump stop once that I noticed (full compression into the wheel well), but just that once and we were doing some reasonably challenging rock crawling at times. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The mounts I was referring to was the upper shock mounts in the rear. Ran into some problems with them, and so Radflo had the mounting hardware custom fabricated. I’d say they’re a significantly more robust mount now, which further increases my confidence with the higher loads I’m running.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Love the RidgeGrapplers. Granted, I don’t have much tire experience on this truck, but I ran BFG ATs on a Jeep I used to have, and they were loud and rough. I’m running Cooper Discoverer ATs on my Taco that my son drives, and I think the RidgeGrappler is quieter, and certainly more capable. The Cooper’s are what I was thinking of for the Sequoia, but Will at Sierra Expeditions said he’d tried both and liked the Ridge Grappler better for several reasons. Very happy we went with his suggestion.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Next up is custom rock sliders from a local fab shop, and a skid plate kit from RCI. They cover engine to transfer case, so I’ll need something custom for the fuel tank.

[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I don’t have good picts of the suspension (with tires off), so will get some when I get back to Phx.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
Ping me next time you’re coming to town. Would love to get together.[/FONT]
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
66 Posts
Discussion Starter #10
Want to start of by saying, NICE RIG !!!!

Question about your custom springs, how do well do they perform? I would be interested in seeing your rig, are you located in AZ ? I really want rear springs, but can't find them anywhere online :|


Thanks,
David
Hey David (I'm a David too),

Happy to get together. I'm in the East Valley. Will drop you a PM.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
17 Posts
Hey dworrel, pretty badass looking rig. I've got a front bumper on my shortlist, so it's good to see the ICI on yours. I plan to do a skid plate package and some custom sliders are next up for us.

I looked around quite a bit and found multiple forums where the ICI works pretty well with minimal modifications. Really like the hidden winch component as well.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
24 Posts
Time to "give back"...

I've been mostly researching (lurking) on this forum, with a few posts and PMs as I planned and designed my lift. I bought this truck in 2014 with the intention of using it as a family overlanding rig. I went into it knowing that 2nd Gen Sequoias are a booger to build into a reasonably serious offroader, but my 3 kids are all adult-sized, and our typical 3-7 day outings require a lot of gear/food/water. Additionally, we generally go long distances to our adventures, and so highway comfort is just as important as off-road functionality. I tried a 2012 Ford F250 Diesel Crew Cab, but it was way too big to go some places we wanted to go. Sweet truck, but not the right tool for the job. I also had a '98 3/4-ton Suburban for quite a while. Also decent, but not right for us, and started to require lot's of maintenance.

For all those reasons, we went with the Sequoia, and have been pretty happy with it. You get A LOT of truck for your money buying these things used. But, we quickly outpaced it's stock capability. Here we are last year in Colorado...



I'm running about 1000# of gear when we're loaded for the back country (gear, water, food, fuel), plus about 750# of bodies (mostly my fault). That's after refining some gear to shave weight, but we're also working on trimming more weight as we come up with creative solutions including on-the-fly resupply. Yeah, I know we're well over the truck's load capacity, but I have talked to Toyota and various off-roading professionals, and given the truck's towing capacities, and the specifics of our upgrades, we're confident that the truck can handle what we're doing with it.

So, after much research, and helpful input from Stom_m3, MtnClimber, and Tip Toe Over The Mt. (sorry if I'm forgetting anyone who provided suggestions), and expert guidance from Sierra Expeditions in Mesa, AZ (among others), this is what we looked like on this year's trip to Colorado.



Here's what we've done to date:
Leather steering wheel cover (the steering wheel was pretty sun-baked when I got it)
Baja Rack Mega Mule (mounts right to the stock cross members)
Front rotors - DBA Brake Rotors Street Series T2 (2724S)
Front pads - Hawk Truck/SUV Brake Pads (HB589P.704) SuperDuty Brake Pads
Tires - Nitto RidgeGrappler LT285/75R17E (incl spare) (33.8")
Wheels - KMC XD Series Turbine 17x9 5x150 +18 OS (incl spare)
SPC Front Upper Control Arms (model 25490)
Custom rear springs from Coil Springs Specialties +57% +3.00"
Radflo 2.5″ Front Coil-over (Eibach Springs) with 7/8" shaft
Radflo 2.5" custom rear shocks with 7/8" shaft, remote reservoir and custom mounts (apparently there are two different mounts on these rigs, and I have the less common of the two)
[FONT=&quot]Bushwacker 30912-02 Toyota OE Style Fender Flare[/FONT]
LED bulbs throughout the cabin and doors


The astute viewer will note that we painted the chrome grille black (satin black trim paint and appropriate primer from an auto paint supply store), and also blacked out all the badges (Plasti-dip). While the fender flares came in black, we painted them to prevent fading, and to match the grille and trim.

Due to challenges with the shock mounts, we took delivery from Sierra Expeditions (they're great btw) the day before departing for Colorado. Had just enough time to run out to the desert to test it a bit, and then home to load up.

Bottom line, we LOVE it. It performed better than I imagined, even fully loaded...
Rides fantastic on the highway, less bouncy than factory, but not "trucky" (like the F250 and Suburban).
Tires are surprisingly quiet for what's basically an AT/MT hybrid, ride great on the pavement, and performed superbly off-road (dirt, gravel, lots of mud, and wet rock faces in precarious circumstances). The 33.8" fits in the spare-well (very tightly), but is now my low point (12" clearance).
The lift came out about 3" in the front, and 5" in the rear. I'm expecting the rear will settle a bit as I really only want 1-1.5" rake and hope it will level when loaded (Coil Springs engineers expected <1" rear end drop when fully loaded).

I've tried to be thorough, but feel free to ping me with questions.
Hey n2thewild,

Was wondering if you could give me some advice, I have a 2010 limited 5.7 V8 Sequoia fully stock at the moment. I want to put on 295/70R18 ATs (still deciding on which brand). I tow a 7K# trailer a lot and when I'm not towing I off road into lakes to go fishing which consists of deep rolling ruts, some rocks and deep mud pits. I have a 10ft aluminum strapped to the roof and motor and gear in the back while off-roading. I wish I could actually rake the back higher, 3" would be great, but alas I don't want to go into custom springs.

So here's what I'm thinking:

-295/70R18 Tires (34.25"x11.6")
-9" wheels with a positive offset of 25
-Bilstein 5100s in the Front on 3rd setting for 2.5" lift
-Bilstein 5100s in the rear with a 2" coil spacer. (MtnClimber mentioned the rear 5100s were good to 2" of lift)

Do you think I can get those tires on with that setup and incur no rubbing with just the usual mods of mud flap removal and maybe a slight trim on the skid plate? Also, what do you think about the wheels, would you use a different width or offset with this setup?

Thanks so much, I'm really looking forward to getting my truck done for the fall fishing season!

Alex.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4 Posts
great looking overlanderi had an 07 but recently got a 2009 and also...live in the East Valley!

Hopefully we cross paths as I love that part of CO, Ouray is my favourite!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
66 Posts
Discussion Starter #14
Hey Alex T.

My tires are 33.86" x 11.26" per mfct specs, and my wheels are 9" +18 OS. Based on my research, I didn't expect any rub, but even with my front mudflaps trimmed, I still rub the outer edge of the tire on the body mount that's behind the mudflap when at full lock, but no issue with the skid plate. I need to get it back into the shop to see if there's any solution, but I suspect not. I think it's mostly due to my offset, so +25 is probably better.

As for your suspension concept, I don't have any personal experience with the setup you're suggesting, just input from others that swayed me to the setup I went with, so here's my impression...
You'll probably be fine with the 5100s up front, seems they're pretty proven. I'm a little more skeptical on the rear as I've read a lot of mixed reviews on the spacers, and the shop I worked with expressed strong concern that the 5100s would top out. But then, I was looking for as much articulation as I could get (for a Sequoia), and running very heavy, so their advice was based on that. For what it's worth, it only cost me ~$400 for the custom springs, which wasn't much more than the spacers (as I recall). They also helped with my load issues, and I love the improved ride and more firm rear end.

Hope that helps!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
24 Posts
Hey Alex T.

My tires are 33.86" x 11.26" per mfct specs, and my wheels are 9" +18 OS. Based on my research, I didn't expect any rub, but even with my front mudflaps trimmed, I still rub the outer edge of the tire on the body mount that's behind the mudflap when at full lock, but no issue with the skid plate. I need to get it back into the shop to see if there's any solution, but I suspect not. I think it's mostly due to my offset, so +25 is probably better.

As for your suspension concept, I don't have any personal experience with the setup you're suggesting, just input from others that swayed me to the setup I went with, so here's my impression...
You'll probably be fine with the 5100s up front, seems they're pretty proven. I'm a little more skeptical on the rear as I've read a lot of mixed reviews on the spacers, and the shop I worked with expressed strong concern that the 5100s would top out. But then, I was looking for as much articulation as I could get (for a Sequoia), and running very heavy, so their advice was based on that. For what it's worth, it only cost me ~$400 for the custom springs, which wasn't much more than the spacers (as I recall). They also helped with my load issues, and I love the improved ride and more firm rear end.

Hope that helps!
Thanks, yeah I'm think a +25 to +35 is best offset, will allow the greatest range of tires in case you want to go a little larger in the future.

For the rear, I've read many posts of 2" Revtek spacer with Bilstein 5100s and didn't notice any reports of topping out, having said that, I totally get that you wanted rake and a stiffer ride to handle load... I too wish this but I don't think it's in my budget for now. The spacers I can get for $181 for a set and the Bilsteins for $81 per. If I go to a custom spring that is longer then I also have to go with a different shocks. Looks like those Radflo rears are over $500 a piece? I wish I could do what you did cause I tow a heavy load and when not towing I'm carrying a lot of weight in the back when off-roading to go fishing.

Anyhow thanks again for responding and enjoy your ride! :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
66 Posts
Discussion Starter #18 (Edited)
Also, can you take a pic of the front and rear suspension. I'd like to see how they look. Thanks! Let's see some off-roading pics!


I was just in Phoenix visiting my sister. Would have loved to check it out as well. We will have to coordinate something next time I'm there.
Sorry for the delay on this...life has been happening.

In response to your other question about shock extension, I'm getting 2.25" up front and 2.5 rear. That's the difference from sitting shock length to extended length when the tire leaves the ground as I jack it up. Let me know if there's a different/better way to approach that.

Here are some picts of the parts...

Front Radflo coilover and SPC UCA (can't figure out why the forum is rotating these first two picts).


Rear spring with the "lived in look".


Custom rear shock mount.


Rear shock and reservoir.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
66 Posts
Discussion Starter #19 (Edited)
Playin' in the dirt at Butcher Jones OHV area with silvertundradave. Just to clarify, he's dark grey and I'm silver, but we're not splittin' hairs over it! :)




 

Attachments

1 - 20 of 81 Posts
Top