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The 4.0 was introduced in 03 and has not been upgraded since,anyone think 08 will be the year to maybe bump power?
 

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The 4.0 was introduced in 03 and has not been upgraded since,anyone think 08 will be the year to maybe bump power?
WTF do you need more power for...I have yet to have an issue with not having enough power, I think maybe your driving the wrong vehicle
 

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WTF do you need more power for...I have yet to have an issue with not having enough power, I think maybe your driving the wrong vehicle
I didn't see that the OP was complaining of a lack of power -- simply asking if we thought an increase was coming.

While more *may* not be necessary, it is often welcome... no such thing as too much!

Actually, I'm glad there was no V8 option when I bought mine... 'cause I would have bought it, and I'd be paying more for fuel now! But it would be sooooo nice! :D
 

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Actually, I'm glad there was no V8 option when I bought mine... 'cause I would have bought it, and I'd be paying more for fuel now! But it would be sooooo nice! :D
Yeah - me too - if they offered a V-8, I would have gotten it, but the 4.0 has plenty of power, at least most of the time and the better gas mileage is nice. On the other hand, I still might trade mine for a V-8 if they ever make it available.:devil:
 

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I too would prefer a v8 Tacoma! I guess we will have to waite till aug/sept to see if Toyota has been listening.
 

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I would have thought they might have squeezed a little more power out for the 07 Tundra like they did to the FJ. And then retune the Tacoma engine the following year or something. That didn't happen though. My Tacoma has plenty of power for me.
 

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..........more UNECESSARY power = more fuel consumption, great for the enviroment!! :cry:
Maybe so, but... if you look at what virtually all manufacturers have historically done to virtually every vehicle created -- they always get larger, and they always get more power!! :devil:
 

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I'm all for more power but no 4.7 for me , thanks. the 4.0 is a nice unit and I'm sure they could do better on the HP and maybe boost the gas mileage as well. Lord knows we all paid enough for our tacos so why not expect more bang for the buck. And while we're at it ... how about rear disks etc etc. Reality is - Toyota knows they've got us by the "short and curlies" because if you want the best truck in our class you have to go with the Tacoma. It's just a business decision to hold back on some of the goodies that are offered price included on lots of other vehicles all in the name of profit margin.We can't forget that even Toyota has to make a good buck to justify their existence...so -don't hold your breath waiting for freebies
 

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Maybe so, but... if you look at what virtually all manufacturers have historically done to virtually every vehicle created -- they always get larger, and they always get more power!! :devil:
Where were you in the late 70's? In the late 70's tough new fuel economy standards + the high gasoline prices following the 1974 Arab Oil Embargo forced all the automakers to DOWNSIZE most car models and engines. The small block Chevy, for example, which had grown to 350 and 400 cubic inches in the 60's was downsized back down to near its original 265 cubic inches. And alot of inline 6's or V6's were being installed in full size and intermediate cars when formerly (early 70's) nearly all had V8's. And there was a national 55 MPH speed limit ! I remember the highway patrol would get on their bull horn and tell people to slow down if they were going 57 or 58 and if you were going 60 or more they'd give you a ticket.
 

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Where were you in the late 70's? In the late 70's tough new fuel economy standards + the high gasoline prices following the 1974 Arab Oil Embargo forced all the automakers to DOWNSIZE most car models and engines. The small block Chevy, for example, which had grown to 350 and 400 cubic inches in the 60's was downsized back down to near its original 265 cubic inches. And alot of inline 6's or V6's were being installed in full size and intermediate cars when formerly (early 70's) nearly all had V8's. And there was a national 55 MPH speed limit ! I remember the highway patrol would get on their bull horn and tell people to slow down if they were going 57 or 58 and if you were going 60 or more they'd give you a ticket.

That might happen again but the main difference between then and now is the technology, specifically engine management systems. Back then it was not practical to use them to any significant degree. Today those constraints no longer exist. Processing power that once filled rooms and cost millions now fits in the palm of your hand for a few hundred dollars. :D

I think Kathy is right in that we may see some toning down of performance in the near future, but I do not believe it will be nearly as deep as it was in the early '70s. :D
 

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Darn connection, I typed a reply and it timed out & got lost...

Yup, I knew it was an old thread that got bumped... :clown:

Kathy, I remember those bad old days but I look back on them as a temporary forced situation -- sorry for the omission. Nothing like crawling across the vast open spaces of the West at a rigorously enforced 55 mph. Remember "rolling roadblocks"?... a patrol car crossing the desert at 55 with a huge wad of vehicles behind him... Thankfully, technology got us past all that and logic allowed more normal speeds. And ever since, most vehicles have once again returned to increases in size... and power. In some cases, you have to question whether enough is simply too much...
 

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Where were you in the late 70's? In the late 70's tough new fuel economy standards + the high gasoline prices following the 1974 Arab Oil Embargo forced all the automakers to DOWNSIZE most car models and engines. The small block Chevy, for example, which had grown to 350 and 400 cubic inches in the 60's was downsized back down to near its original 265 cubic inches. And alot of inline 6's or V6's were being installed in full size and intermediate cars when formerly (early 70's) nearly all had V8's. And there was a national 55 MPH speed limit ! I remember the highway patrol would get on their bull horn and tell people to slow down if they were going 57 or 58 and if you were going 60 or more they'd give you a ticket.
The new fuel economy requirements will definately change the way engineers design vehicles. If you look at the gas mileage numbers from the early 80's till today, you will see they have basically remain unchanged. The horespower ratings, however, have increased. I'm all for a powerful engine but with the current gas prices I think consumers should welcome this change. How about engineering the 4.0 L V6 to put out the same 236HP but deliver 25 to 30 mpg. That's what I would like to see.
 
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