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Better at what? Theres a million ways to answer this question with out knowing what you plan to do with your truck. Both have their Pros and Cons.
 

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I am assuming you don't see yourself ever taking it off-road or you probably wouldn't be asking this. If you are ever going to drive in the snow, go 4x4. My friend bought an 01 Prerunner because he thought he was never going to use four wheel drive. He really regrets it, he doesn't take it to Tahoe because he doesn't want to deal with chains. He really can't wheel with us even though it is a TRD "Off Road." I don't think the MPG's are that much better. I would go with the 4x4, I did, and it is worth it.
 

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Would you be able to jump a 4x4? and can you take a Prerunner into mud without getting stuck cause thats what i would do with it after i got a lift and 35inch tires.
 

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Would you be able to jump a 4x4?
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and can you take a Prerunner into mud without getting stuck
no. dirty water is not mud, btw. mud is filthy, sticky, gooey, sloppy gunk that not only impedes forward progress but clogs tires and creates suction on any contact surface. there are lots of "look ma i went mudding" posts and pictures here at TS, very few actually involve mud vs dirty water. mud usually means getting stuck even with 4x4...but anything is fine if you just want to drive fast through dirty puddles. it's fun, easy, everybody does it at least once, until they realize how long it takes to clean up...whereas mud seems to involve long days with a shovel, followed by a post on the "memorable stucks" thread.
cause thats what i would do with it after i got a lift and 35inch tires.
not gonna tell you what to do, but i will tell you that's a waste of a perfectly good truck, particularly if you get 4x4.

have you browsed over the socaltundras forums?

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I would never get a truck only for show. I would rather have a truck that when u go offroading it can take a beating and dosnt fall apart.
 

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I would never get a truck only for show. I would rather have a truck that when u go offroading it can take a beating and dosnt fall apart.
I think you just answered your own question...offroading...you gotta get the 4x4. My buddy has an 04 trd 2wd taco and he TRIES to go wheeling with us but gets stuck ;)
 

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I would never get a truck only for show. I would rather have a truck that when u go offroading it can take a beating and dosnt fall apart.
Get a 1995-2004 Tacoma with the 3.4L V6. They are overbuilt, small, nimble, etc...the new Tacoma is the same size as the first generation Tundras. Toyota's previous generation mini-truck/suv platform is hard to beat offroad.

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Do you want a truck for show or functionality? Answer that and you will know which one to get.
That screams 4x4....:D
Um I beg to differ on this? My truck is not show (Though it is very clean and nice to look at) and is a 2x4?? Can any of your stock 4x4 trucks go through 2-3 foot whoops at 80? can they jump and not break? Can they hit anything with speed and not rip the suspension or steering to pieces? Can they just plain KEEP UP? I doubt it. so once again we are back to the issue of what is it being used for?

A 4x4 can jump and a 2x4 can go through mud. It all depends on how much Money you put into it and how it is set up.

From what he is saying it sounds like his best bet would be a 4x4 with long travel and decent shocks and a CAGE. BUT Most people will not do this they will simply slap on some coilovers and think they have a race truck. But then again a 4x4 and a pre runner Tacoma are the same truck so why not just get the 4x and have everything. I doubt he is going big enough to where the 4x4 would limit his travel.






Here is a 4X4 that could do both (Well used to). This is why you want the cage

 

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this thread shows some mud.

this picture is me driving through a lot of dirty water with a solid form bottom--not mud at all, but a lot of people have posted similar pictures and then claimed they went mudding. this is what it looks like afterwards...hope you have a pressure washer handy, or the proverbial sh*tload of dimes, because the cleanup is expensive and time consuming. That stuff was on every exterior surface, all over the engine compartment, everywhere.

Show me a 2WD that does mud and I bet it has stupidly huge boggers, high revving engine with plenty of torque, doesn't get DD use, etc...

Otherwise, what he said.

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Can you get a 4x4 truck and do a lot of mods to it so it can go off jumps pretty fast without the suspension breaking? My bro has a 04 Taco 4x4 its pretty tight.
 

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Can you get a 4x4 truck and do a lot of mods to it so it can go off jumps pretty fast without the suspension breaking? My bro has a 04 Taco 4x4 its pretty tight.
Yes. Depends on the year as to what is available but you can. Total Chaos makes long travel for the front (Not sure if they have it for the new style tacos yet) and you can put some 62 inch deavers or national springs in the back with decent shocks and a cage and you would be good to go. Plus if you buy the axles you would be able to retain 4wd.
 

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this thread shows some mud.

this picture is me driving through a lot of dirty water with a solid form bottom--not mud at all, but a lot of people have posted similar pictures and then claimed they went mudding. this is what it looks like afterwards...hope you have a pressure washer handy, or the proverbial sh*tload of dimes, because the cleanup is expensive and time consuming. That stuff was on every exterior surface, all over the engine compartment, everywhere.

Show me a 2WD that does mud and I bet it has stupidly huge boggers, high revving engine with plenty of torque, doesn't get DD use, etc...

Otherwise, what he said.

-Sean
Have you ever been out to the desert when it rains?? That mud is sticky and out of control. I drove home once with my truck looking just like your picture the only difference was the mud was 2-3 inches thick all over.:eek: I got pulled over due to the fact that I could not use most windows or mirrors. I had to use beer and My T-Shirt to clean them in order for him to let me go. The weight of the mud ripped my bedside off just from building up on it. It took me well over 3 hours with a pressure washer to get her clean and the underside was still a mess. Ever since that day I have avoided Mud like the plague because everytime I layed under that truck I got a dirt shower.:td:
 

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Have you ever been out to the desert when it rains?? That mud is sticky and out of control. I drove home once with my truck looking just like your picture the only difference was the mud was 2-3 inches thick all over.:eek: I got pulled over due to the fact that I could not use most windows or mirrors. I had to use beer and My T-Shirt to clean them in order for him to let me go. The weight of the mud ripped my bedside off just from building up on it. It took me well over 3 hours with a pressure washer to get her clean and the underside was still a mess. Ever since that day I have avoided Mud like the plague because everytime I layed under that truck I got a dirt shower.:td:
Yeah. I hate that stuff. I was aired down and in 4WD and I'm lucky it wasn't deeper since part of it was on a hill climb...with ATs I was generally sliding in the direction I wanted to go. My tires looked like slicks, and the truck was filthy after less than a mile...no liners under the glass, so it gets on everything...it looked like that scene from that Wallace & Grommet movie where Grommet drives outta the rabbit hole in the ground with the windshield wipers on "Heavy Loam". Fortunately it wasn't more than 6" deep at the worst on the flats, and only a couple inches on the hill climb, it had a good form bottom, and I had momentum...if it were much deeper I would've been digging out or headed for a long drop and a short stop. Sandstone/silt clay mud is the worst f-ing stuff...second only to quicksand, which I've stepped in but fortunately never driven through (heh...more like "unintentionally parked in" is what would happen...)

I'm pretty sure without 4WD I wouldn't have made the hill climb. The truck was sliding through the switchbacks and barely scrapped up the hill. The rest, yeah, 2WD could probably have done it fine with good tires, but if it were deeper I dunno. I'd love to carve up some Boggers but can't justify the time or money for the amount of time I end up in crap like that. Best course of action in SW Utah when it pours is park on high ground and stay there til it's dry, unless you're equipped for sludge slinging. They're not kidding when they say "often impassable for 4WD when wet."

And I always wear goggles under the truck now :td:...and a hat. Dirt falling in your ears/nose/mouth sucks.
 

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My 4x2 Longbed tundra is more functional than your 4x4 access cab at hauling stuff. I thought trucks were for hauling stuff.
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Well, I went for the all-purpose truck. I can haul stuff (albeit not quite as much) through some nastiness. Since I hunt, fish, camp and like to explore with a loaded truck, I got a 4x4.
As long as you go Toyota, you can't go wrong. :)
 

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Yeah. I hate that stuff. I was aired down and in 4WD and I'm lucky it wasn't deeper since part of it was on a hill climb...with ATs I was generally sliding in the direction I wanted to go. My tires looked like slicks, and the truck was filthy after less than a mile...no liners under the glass, so it gets on everything...it looked like that scene from that Wallace & Grommet movie where Grommet drives outta the rabbit hole in the ground with the windshield wipers on "Heavy Loam". Fortunately it wasn't more than 6" deep at the worst on the flats, and only a couple inches on the hill climb, it had a good form bottom, and I had momentum...if it were much deeper I would've been digging out or headed for a long drop and a short stop. Sandstone/silt clay mud is the worst f-ing stuff...second only to quicksand, which I've stepped in but fortunately never driven through (heh...more like "unintentionally parked in" is what would happen...)

I'm pretty sure without 4WD I wouldn't have made the hill climb. The truck was sliding through the switchbacks and barely scrapped up the hill. The rest, yeah, 2WD could probably have done it fine with good tires, but if it were deeper I dunno. I'd love to carve up some Boggers but can't justify the time or money for the amount of time I end up in crap like that. Best course of action in SW Utah when it pours is park on high ground and stay there til it's dry, unless you're equipped for sludge slinging. They're not kidding when they say "often impassable for 4WD when wet."

And I always wear goggles under the truck now :td:...and a hat. Dirt falling in your ears/nose/mouth sucks.
My last trip out to Ocotillo we went to a new area where we have never been to and were sort of making our way back to our camp. (exploring) we rolled up to a camp and asked if this road will get us back to shell reef expressway. He said yes he was heading out that way in a minute and pointed directly at my truck stating "But there is no way that will make it" He had a completly locked up Jeep with every accessory you can get. I just said "the billy goat will make it" and out we went. You should have seen the look on his face when he rolled up to us at the other end. He stated he would have bet money my 2x would not have made it. The funny thing is the scariest part of the drive was what I could not see. I figuered there had to be some really scary tuff parts up ahead. But then we were done???

Granted it is only a 2x and Mud may get her down but man does the 18+ inches of travel allow it to articulate which saved my Butt on most of the stuff. A little speed and plenty of articulation and we made it.

These are some pics of a recent run we went on.





 
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