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5.7 cold start KNOCK

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#1 ·
Does anyone else notice this besides me? Evidently its nothing to worry about.:confused:
 
#2 ·
Mine is knocking when cold. It's getting worse as time goes bye. I can't buy that it is a forged piston clearance issue. My pistons shouldn't have worn that much in 1500 miles! If they have I certainly will be screaming bloody murder.
 
#3 ·
I also know better than to let someone diagnose my engine sounds thru email. I advise you do the same. At least have it looked at so you have a case if it fails later in life.
 
#4 ·
I figure I'll wait till my next oil change and let the dealer check it out... I've still got some time left on warranty -- but it will run out pretty quick at 1200 miles per week. I havent noticed it getting any worse however.
 
#8 ·
Sounds like the classic case of piston slap. If so, it's not a big problem. GM LS1 engines are known to do it from time to time, and there haven't been any reliability issues that I know of, and those motors have been on the road for 10 years now. My 02 Camaro did it, and changing from 5w30 to 10w30 helped a lot.
 
#9 ·
First off no one knows what it is. I've heard piston slap before and this isn't it (5.3 w/100K). It's way too much. If it is it my engine is getting changed. It's not even cold out 58*. This morning it rattled like a damn diesel (41*)!
 
#10 ·
First off no one knows what it is. I've heard piston slap before and this isn't it (5.3 w/100K). It's way too much. If it is it my engine is getting changed. It's not even cold out 50*. This morning it rattled like a damn diesel!
Maybe the assembler dropped his Titanium wedding ring in your motor?!!!:eek: :clown:
 
#12 ·
It was just a joke, Ti would last longer than most of the engine components, thus it would rattle around in there for a long long time. Where say a stray washer would get shredded and come out with the filter and oil, been there, fixed that (man other people kids and their darn wrenches).

Really, just a josh.:D :tu:
 
#13 ·
I sit here looking at these posts of oh, it's probably just piston slap and it really chaps my hide. What makes piston slap acceptable in a 3 week old vehicle? What makes a clearance issue acceptable at all?
 
#14 ·
I sit here looking at these posts of oh, it's probably just piston slap and it really chaps my hide. What makes piston slap acceptable in a 3 week old vehicle? What makes a clearance issue acceptable at all?
I think you may be one of the lucky ones who may have a problem. Understand none of us can hear what you are describing. If it is as bad as you make it out to be, you may have something going on.

Piston slap is fairly normal. I race motorcross and everyone of my bikes and my buddies have the same slap on cold startup. Aluminum block and forged pistons have different warmup times to reach optimal specs. They will click and clack until warm, the noise they make with 1 cylinder, I could only imagine 8.:eek: That is why you will never see any of us start it a ride it. It has to warm up or you lose the life of the motor components. But when it warms the noise completely disappears.

I have not yet noticed anything as far as noise on my 5.7, but your post has me listening. I have the remote start and I run the vehical for a good 5 minutes before I even get in. In the last 2 days of ownership, I have noticed nothing, it is warm when I get in.

Tomorrow morning, I will not start it until I am ready to walk out the door. Keep in mind I will not drive it on a cold motor but, I will take a good listen as it warms up and report back to you tomorrow morning on what I find. Look in this thread in the am.
 
#15 ·
I race dirt bikes myself. I'm very familiar with piston slap, cold seizures and the like. These motors don't turn 14000 RPM and need the clearances that a 250F does. I have been wrong many times in my life, this could be another one of them. However, I don't think this is piston slap.
 
#16 ·
Guys, there's nothing to worry about with the 5.7L and that annoying sound on cold days. It does not last for more than 3 minutes and there is no long term reliability concerns to the motor. I beleive Toyota when they say it's normal for the 4.7L and 5.7L motors to do that:tu: This is my third Tundra and they have all done that during the Winter months. I just take it easy and make sure to not go over 2k RPM for the first 3 minutes and after that, everything is normal.

I'm sure Toyota put this 5.7L motor through cold weather testing and every other test before they decided to introduce it in the '07 Tundra. I won't lose sleep over this.

Cheers
 
#17 ·
I'd say this is an issue if it bothers the customer. Why would Toyota continue not to fix this issue after what others are saying has been 'normal' for years with the 4.7 and now maybe the 5.7?

Guys, there's nothing to worry about with the 5.7L and that annoying sound on cold days. It does not last for more than 3 minutes and there is no long term reliability concerns to the motor. I beleive Toyota when they say it's normal for the 4.7L and 5.7L motors to do that:tu: This is my third Tundra and they have all done that during the Winter months. I just take it easy and make sure to not go over 2k RPM for the first 3 minutes and after that, everything is normal.

I'm sure Toyota put this 5.7L motor through cold weather testing and every other test before they decided to introduce it in the '07 Tundra. I won't lose sleep over this.

Cheers
 
#18 ·
I'd say this is an issue if it bothers the customer. Why would Toyota continue not to fix this issue after what others are saying has been 'normal' for years with the 4.7 and now maybe the 5.7?
They don't fix it because it has to be that way for everything to be in spec when the thing warms up.
 
#19 ·
MLN,

My truck purrs like a kitten, granted it was 50 degrees outside at 5am when I left the house, but mine sounds as it should.

You seem very "stand offish" about your issue. If you don't want anyones opinion or ideas, stop posting about it.
Go to the dealer and make them fix it, or put in ear plugs and run it till she dies.:D :clown:
 
#20 ·
Mine lasts more than three minutes. I let my engine warm up nearly that long. Then I drive another 10 minutes to work.

Again, what makes it normal for some engines to do it while others don't. For my $35,000 I want one that doesn't make noise.

Again, I'm not convinced it is piston slap. If it is I think it's on the extreme side. Too much clearance is a bad thing, if the piston rocks enough I could end up cracking or breaking the piston skirts.
 
#22 ·
mxsjw

I appreciate input that it could be piston slap. I don't think there should be any this loud at 1500 miles, I guess if that is what the offical word is from Toyota I'll have no choice but to deal with it. I don't see these motors lasting 200K or 300k as Toyotas have been known to do in the past if my motor is representative of the fleet. If mine is not a good representative of the fleet I want one that is. That shouldn't be asking for too much.

I don't mean to sound stand offish or come across that way. I just think it's funny how everyone tells me their stuff is perfect and I couldn't have a problem with mine or that it's just a little piston slap and get over it. My noise hasn't even been diagnosed at this point. My dealer mechanic said nothing of piston slap when we drove yesterday. I'd think if slap is so common in Toyotas he would have said something about it. Mine doesn't make a slight noise, it's very evident. My mechanic has made a case against the truck because he feels something is wrong, make that not normal. Now the both of us are at Toyotas mercy. Wish me luck.
 
#25 ·
I assure you it has been driven in a sensible fashion. I'm 44 years old, I do my racing on the tracks (motorcycles), not the streets.
Hmmm, Have you changed the oil yet, what color was it or is it currently. Dark? Like new? Somewhere in the middle?
 
#26 ·
No I haven't changed the oil yet. I brought it to the dealer to have it changed but they didn't have the proper oil or filter. I'll have it done when the backordered filter comes in.

I may have an oil analysis done on it just to see what they say.