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I had an early 2000s Land Cruiser and after some time have decided to make a change to a 1st gen Tundra. I am in talks with a private seller from the rocky mountain region to buy one with 160k. Carfax shows that it's been serviced regularly, no crashes, oil, filters, shock absorbers, struts, spark plugs etc. For whatever reason, the timing belt and water pump didn't come up in the Carfax report. Now, I know this is something that needs to be changed (confirmed with my local Toyota mech), but the truck drives really well at 160K and obviously couldn't if the belt snapped. Note: I plan to replace the timing belt/water pump the day after purchase.

I wanted a second opinion on the underneath. I think it's in pretty good condition, the exhaust looks like it might need swap. I plan to use it in the western US from Washington to New Mexico.

How's the underneath look to you guys? Anything else besides the timing belt/water pump to get repaired asap? Any other concerns?
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Tap all over the frame with a small hammer, do this to confirm damage isn't concealed by some kind of coating. I would hook up a good scan tool and see what's what... timing belt service, clean the throttle body and MAF sensor, maybe change the plugs.

Good luck.
 

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Tap all over the frame with a small hammer, do this to confirm damage isn't concealed by some kind of coating. I would hook up a good scan tool and see what's what... timing belt service, clean the throttle body and MAF sensor, maybe change the plugs.

Good luck.
Very helpful, rust looks OK? Plugs were swapped at 155K but I'll clean the body and MAF.
 

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Looks pretty damn clean to me. It does look like someone sprayed some sort of coating on it thats flaking off which is not good. Crap that coats the frame and sticks to it usually ends up trapping moisture and can make things worse but theres not a lot of real rust on it. Go to your local auto parts store and buy some sort of rust inhibitor spray and coat the whole underside just to give you some peace of mind if you want.

If you want to know what real frame rust is, have a flip through this thread.

 

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Looks pretty damn clean to me. It does look like someone sprayed some sort of coating on it thats flaking off which is not good. Crap that coats the frame and sticks to it usually ends up trapping moisture and can make things worse but theres not a lot of real rust on it. Go to your local auto parts store and buy some sort of rust inhibitor spray and coat the whole underside just to give you some peace of mind if you want.

If you want to know what real frame rust is, have a flip through this thread.

Thanks for the second op. I didn't realize that there was spray on it already, but I'll definitely spray the frame with rust inhibitor like you said. I thought it was clean, but looking at that other thread, my photos are immaculate. :)
 

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Pressure test the radiator before you change the belt and pump, the plastic parts on the radiator tend to get hairline cracks at this age. The original radiator on my 2002 failed right before a road trip at about 160k, I replaced it with a Denso and I'm at about 178k now.
 

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OK so I got a hold of the latest maintenance records. The only recommended work (that was declined) is timing belt, water pump, cam seals, and crank seals.

Do the cam seals and crank seals come in the timing belt kit? I guess if you're in there you might as well, right?
 

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OK so I got a hold of the latest maintenance records. The only recommended work (that was declined) is timing belt, water pump, cam seals, and crank seals.

Do the cam seals and crank seals come in the timing belt kit? I guess if you're in there you might as well, right?
If it is a good kit. Easy to replace and I would. Frame looks really good too. It almost looks like mine but I have Firestone airbags ;-). The Firestone have two bolts at the top and yours look like only a single bolt is attached to the frame??
 

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If everything checks out ok, and the frame is solid, I wouldn't hesitate. That motor is just broken in good. The first thing I'd do to it is a timing belt/water pump job. Get a quality Aisin kit with the pump, belts and pulleys. You don't know if it's ever been done, or if it was done with good parts. The 4.7 engine is an interference engine and if the belt gets too old and fails or the water pump lets go, it will destroy it. These trucks can go for 500 thousand miles or more if taken care of.
 

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I would say, go for it. You know the timing belt/water pump should be changed. apparently it was delayed so I would make that an immediate priority. Aisin kits have new pulleys, water pump, timing belt as a few "O" rings, belt and gaskets. No cam seals. Search this site for TB change info/advice. Look at your serpentine belt, radiator hoses as well as that radiator as advised. If you are doing the work yourself or having it done check out the 3 part AA Auto videos on you tube to better understand the process.
I am old and did the job in about 10 1/2 hours.
Here is an Amazon link for the Aisin kit complete with picture of it's contents. Enjoy the adventure...Chap
Amazon.com: AISIN TKT-021 Engine Timing Belt Kit with Water Pump, grey : Automotive
 

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I had an early 2000s Land Cruiser and after some time have decided to make a change to a 1st gen Tundra. I am in talks with a private seller from the rocky mountain region to buy one with 160k. Carfax shows that it's been serviced regularly, no crashes, oil, filters, shock absorbers, struts, spark plugs etc. For whatever reason, the timing belt and water pump didn't come up in the Carfax report. Now, I know this is something that needs to be changed (confirmed with my local Toyota mech), but the truck drives really well at 160K and obviously couldn't if the belt snapped. Note: I plan to replace the timing belt/water pump the day after purchase.

I wanted a second opinion on the underneath. I think it's in pretty good condition, the exhaust looks like it might need swap. I plan to use it in the western US from Washington to New Mexico.

How's the underneath look to you guys? Anything else besides the timing belt/water pump to get repaired asap? Any other concerns? View attachment 156084
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I have a 2005 sequoia. 1st Gen. 4.7L engine. I just replaced my TB and water pump. I also had a transmission shop replace fluid and filter. My transmission is SEALED. Vehicle has 160k miles. Also wouldn't hurt to get a chassis lube.
 

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I had an early 2000s Land Cruiser and after some time have decided to make a change to a 1st gen Tundra. I am in talks with a private seller from the rocky mountain region to buy one with 160k. Carfax shows that it's been serviced regularly, no crashes, oil, filters, shock absorbers, struts, spark plugs etc. For whatever reason, the timing belt and water pump didn't come up in the Carfax report. Now, I know this is something that needs to be changed (confirmed with my local Toyota mech), but the truck drives really well at 160K and obviously couldn't if the belt snapped. Note: I plan to replace the timing belt/water pump the day after purchase.

I wanted a second opinion on the underneath. I think it's in pretty good condition, the exhaust looks like it might need swap. I plan to use it in the western US from Washington to New Mexico.

How's the underneath look to you guys? Anything else besides the timing belt/water pump to get repaired asap? Any other concerns? View attachment 156084
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I just bought a 2000 tundra in really good condition with 154000 miles. Drove it about 150 miles and check engine light came on. Cat converter plugged on drivers side. 500 dollar fix. You just never know.
 

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OK so I got a hold of the latest maintenance records. The only recommended work (that was declined) is timing belt, water pump, cam seals, and crank seals.

Do the cam seals and crank seals come in the timing belt kit? I guess if you're in there you might as well, right?
I got my timing belt kit off EBay years ago and it included all seals as well as serpentine belt and hoses. When I brought it to my mechanic to install them he was so impressed with the parts, he asked where I got them and he said that the price matched or beat his costs. What I was most concerned about was that the parts that came with the kit where OEM or a reputable name brand.
I have 06' 2WD Tundra 170K on it and had to replace the transmission at 160K, other than that it is super reliable

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I wanted a second opinion on the underneath. I think it's in pretty good condition, the exhaust looks like it might need swap. I plan to use it in the western US from Washington to New Mexico.
I own a 2003 Tundra with ~160K miles. I recently had to replace my rack & pinion and the power steering hose. You might want to have those checked. My mechanic ordered the parts from the Toyota dealer and they sent him inferior 3rd-party parts, which he sent back. I ordered them from Rock Auto. Good luck.
 

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I own a 2003 Tundra also...but mine has 270,000 miles. It is the best vehicle I have ever owned by far. The paint is past its prime, but the reliability has been incredible. My mechanic would always say when I would take it in for routine maintenance: "This is the way they ought to make 'em." Good luck...
 

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I had an early 2000s Land Cruiser and after some time have decided to make a change to a 1st gen Tundra. I am in talks with a private seller from the rocky mountain region to buy one with 160k. Carfax shows that it's been serviced regularly, no crashes, oil, filters, shock absorbers, struts, spark plugs etc. For whatever reason, the timing belt and water pump didn't come up in the Carfax report. Now, I know this is something that needs to be changed (confirmed with my local Toyota mech), but the truck drives really well at 160K and obviously couldn't if the belt snapped. Note: I plan to replace the timing belt/water pump the day after purchase.

I wanted a second opinion on the underneath. I think it's in pretty good condition, the exhaust looks like it might need swap. I plan to use it in the western US from Washington to New Mexico.

How's the underneath look to you guys? Anything else besides the timing belt/water pump to get repaired asap? Any other concerns? View attachment 156084
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I wish my frame looked that clean lol. Looks like a good deal
 

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I own a 2003 Tundra also...but mine has 270,000 miles. It is the best vehicle I have ever owned by far. The paint is past its prime, but the reliability has been incredible. My mechanic would always say when I would take it in for routine maintenance: "This is the way they ought to make 'em." Good luck...
Mines a 2000 and I'll keep it forever. One of the best trucks I ever owned. The only major thing I had to replace was the trans. And I put an 04 trans in this time. Besides frame patches and rockers need replaced I can't complain for being in the rustbelt
 

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Thanks for the second op. I didn't realize that there was spray on it already, but I'll definitely spray the frame with rust inhibitor like you said. I thought it was clean, but looking at that other thread, my photos are immaculate. :)
If you spray the frame try the black fluidfilm. It works great. I always do the inner rockers and the inner lips on the bedsides
 

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Looks pretty damn clean to me. It does look like someone sprayed some sort of coating on it thats flaking off which is not good. Crap that coats the frame and sticks to it usually ends up trapping moisture and can make things worse but theres not a lot of real rust on it. Go to your local auto parts store and buy some sort of rust inhibitor spray and coat the whole underside just to give you some peace of mind if you want.

If you want to know what real frame rust is, have a flip through this thread.

Undercoat is the worst thing you could put on a frame. When my customers ask me to do that I'll tell them no and talk them into fluidfilm or bedliner. At least it gets harder and doesn't hold in salt and moisture. Just as bad when people use spray foam lol
 
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