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Dianne,
You don't need to sell me. I bought one from you, remember. :)
I forgot to mention that another big factor was the opportunity to work with Dianne rather than the sleaze balls down the street.
Resale value wasn't a big factor for us as we plan to keep the truck for 10 years or more (the Explorer at 8 years old was one of the newest vehicles we ever got rid of). Also remember that a brand new 2002 Expedition XLT equipped as you noted could probably be purchased for around $25K, so the resale probably wouldn't be that bad on a new one. If you bought an Expedition last year for close to retail, you're getting hit by the severe discounts being offered on the new ones. I suspect gas prices and the release of the all new 2003 models did a double whammy on the 2002 Expeditions.
 

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Don...

I know you did.
I wanted to make sure no one else got caught in the cesspoo...er, whirlpool of Ford's hype and wasn't looking to the future.
 

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dgraves1 said:
Did somebody say "good gas mileage"? Compared to what? I'm at 1300 miles and my avg is 12.6 MPG. Of course that's almost entirely around town driving, and not much worse than I expected, just less than I was hoping for. Hopefully, it will improve some as the engine breaks in.

In the first 5000 miles, I was averaging 13-15 mpg and that's with a mix of 50% street 50% highway. Now at 13,000 miles, its averaging 16-18 mpg with the same mix. The best I've seen is 21 mpg all freeway just this 4th of July long weekend.
 

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MPG Experience so Far

We purchased a 2002 Sequoia last month and with slightly less than 500 mileson the odometer we seem to be averaging 13.7 MPG in Houston City driving.

However, I'd add that we've been very gentle on the accelerator.

Once it's broken in it'll be interesting to see what kind of MPG we get on the highway.
 

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The dilemma we (my wife and I) are having is the debate between the Highlander and Sequoia.

Right now, it's just her and I and one on the way. My wife believes the Highlander will be big enough for the growing family but I'd rather get the Sequoia now and keep it for 10+ years rather than have to sell the Highlander in say, five years.

We are going to wait until the '03's arrive before we make any decisions but I'd appreciate any input from both sides of the coin.

Thanks,
Eric
 

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Highlander vs. Sequoia

We looked at both and my wife finally choose the big Sequoia. Why? It's big #1 and if you get in an accident the chances of your future family seem to be better in a big SUV vs. a small SUV. If money is that big a deal then do what you have to do, but I would guess you could get a better deal from a dealer right now rather than when the 03's come rolling out w/ that hefty $$$!

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Highlander vs. Sequoia

Eric,

my wife was looking at a highlander to replace her camry and she said that the highlander was a great mini-SUV, BUT that it was no comparison to my sequoia. she said that even though the sequoia took a while to get used to (size) she felt a lot safer in it. plus the cargo room in the sequoia is huge, especially if you remove the 3rd row seats.

btw, congrats on the baby! :D

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This is one you really have to figure out on your own because each families needs/wants are very different. I have a friend with three kids that gets by with an Escort station wagon. We have three kids and our Explorer was a little too small for us. If we had only two kids, a Highlander, which is pretty similar in size to an Explorer, might be fine. So part of the equation is how big you are planning your family to grow in the next ten years. Personally, if I were you, I would go with the Highlander for now and see how your family develops and what it needs. Why drive a family of three around in a 6000 lb truck, getting lousy gas mileage for all those years because you might need something bigger 5 or 6 years from now? Personally, I don't put a lot of stock in the "bigger is better" concept from a safety standpoint.

Can you get kicked off the Sequoia board for recommending something other than a Sequoia? :)
 

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dgraves1 said:
Can you get kicked off the Sequoia board for recommending something other than a Sequoia? :)
YUP! consider your membership revoked!! ;)

seriously the highlander is a great SUV, but again if we had to choose between the two i'd pick the sequoia. i just feel cramped in the highlander, especially when taking long trips. dgraves is right though, it all comes down to your needs and what you're going to use your SUV for. i have three kids, travel a lot, go to the snow, etc. so the sequoia fits our needs perfectly. :)
 

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decisions?

You're deciding between a Highlander and a Sequoia, my decision is between an Avalon and Sequoia. We rented a Sequoia for a trip to LA and loved it. I have 2 boys and hubby over 6ft so leg room makes a lot of difference to me. I too have been looking at the gas mileage and the fact I don't always have the 4 of us in the vehicle. In fact most of the time it's just me. So of course the "smart" decision would be the Avalon. However I love the Sequoia and so does the rest of the family. You pay about $600 a yr more in gas but can do so much more with it. We're waiting to see what the 03's have to offer on both but the way it's looking is the Sequoia.
Happy hunting.
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Clarion Head Unit

Simias,

I love the job you did with the video in you Sequoia... I was curious does that Clarion head unit allow for Nav. functions... I love the Sequoia, but with my job the Nav. would be a godsend.. From what I hear there will be no nav in 2003 either, so I will probably have to go with the new runner, unless I can find an in-dash aftermarket system, that looks nice. The dealer tried to point me to an Audiovox surface mount, but is looked really cheap. Any advice or insight would be appreciated..

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Rick....thanks for the compliment! :D definitely get the sequoia! there are many aftermarket nav systems for the sequoia. i'm currently looking into the Clarion system. Alpine and Pioneer has one as well. looks sweet too! TS member: froknoy has the Alpine nav system and he recommends it.
you could check out this thread for more info:
Sequoia: Ent Systems

dgraves1.....LMAO!! :D i'm in the same boat! if it weren't for TS i'd have to actually work! :p

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Re: decisions?

Donna,

I know exactly where you are coming from. Most of the time the sole driver will be my wife. I think my percentage of driving the SUV will be around 10% or so, meaning the vehicle will occupy less than three persons 90% of the time.

As far as gas mileage is concerned, I figure the difference between the Highlander and Sequoia is minimal considering the fact that my wife only drives about 10,000 miles a year. Of course, if fuel economy was a mjor issue I would be compelled to go with the Highlander.

I would say that the difference in the purchase price is what is making me think. For similarily equipped units, I figure the difference is probably $7K to $8K plus tax.

The way I figure it, a family of four is going to need and/or want more space than the Highlander can provide, especially as the kids grow older. Thus, the Sequoia seems to be a better fit. To each his own I guess.

Best of luck with your decision too. Sounds like more than a few of us are stressing over similar decisions. It will all work out in the end.


trackzonie said:
You're deciding between a Highlander and a Sequoia, my decision is between an Avalon and Sequoia. We rented a Sequoia for a trip to LA and loved it. I have 2 boys and hubby over 6ft so leg room makes a lot of difference to me. I too have been looking at the gas mileage and the fact I don't always have the 4 of us in the vehicle. In fact most of the time it's just me. So of course the "smart" decision would be the Avalon. However I love the Sequoia and so does the rest of the family. You pay about $600 a yr more in gas but can do so much more with it. We're waiting to see what the 03's have to offer on both but the way it's looking is the Sequoia.
Happy hunting.
donna
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Simias said:

seriously the highlander is a great SUV, but again if we had to choose between the two i'd pick the sequoia. i just feel cramped in the highlander, especially when taking long trips. dgraves is right though, it all comes down to your needs and what you're going to use your SUV for. i have three kids, travel a lot, go to the snow, etc. so the sequoia fits our needs perfectly. :)
My dad felt the same way, cramped in the Highlander. The arm rest was too close to his body. :p We were originally looking for a midsize SUV but decided on a fullsize cause we needed the space to haul mine and my sisters stuff back and forth from college and my Dad wanted to start doing more surf fishing and wanted to be able to sleep in the back of it. Plus the price difference was small between midsize and fullsize SUV's.
 

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Re: decisions?

I just did 2 build-orders on Sequoias for folks in AZ! One for a 2003, one for a 2002 (we are still selling and shipping them) ... I sure sell a lot of these special orders to AZ, NV, and NM! The 2003 Avalons are out (great looking rear tail lights and steering wheel upgrade) and I have a few of those ordered for folks as well.

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You have to call around to your local Toyota dealers to see if any rent what you're looking for. In the Phx area we found 1 dealer who rented Sequoias and it was always rented. They only had 1 in the rental fleet and I'm sure could have used a couple more since they even had a waiting list.

Diane I'm not surprised you're selling to some of us Az people. We have several dealers but none that I would recommend! I've seen the pictures of the 03 Avalons and they made them look a little better. Am waiting to see them in person. Our dealers have no clue when they're coming in but will take your order. I think not until I see it.

Sunfire red--We found that there wasn't much of a price difference between the Highlander and the Sequoia, maybe a couple thousand. So at that rate I would rather have the Sequoia which gives you more room and more flexibilty. Not to mention the ride was better too. It's just getting over the MPG and the cost of gas going up.

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Just got back from Big Bear and the Sequoia was perfect (of course, I'm biased :) ) We were gone for a week and had camping gear (2 sleeping bags, tent, and cooler) 2 duffle bags, 2 pillows, and 2 blankets behind the 2nd row and it fit perfectly without having to stack it above the rear window. We don't have any kids yet but I couldn't imagine taking a trip like this in a smaller vehicle. Good luck in your decision making :)
 
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