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Duluth Tundra
Hello! First off, I'd like to say hello to everybody. I have owned my Tundra since I bought it in 06. It is basically stock except some appearance items.


Well, today I installed Bi-Xenon HID lights. I took my time and i did a pretty clean install. My wrenching aren't the best, but I can do a lot of DIY stuff. I also had my neighbor over and he is pretty mechanically inclined. However, neither of us are electricians.....



Now before I start, please don't just tell me to do a search, because I've been doing that for the last 3 hours and I cannot find the exact solution to my issues.


I installed a well put together kit of 6000 Bi Xenon plug and play kit. I plugged the kit's 3 prong male end into the battery (driver's side), leaving the female end 3 connector on the air filter side unused.....


Well, The install worked and my lights look nice. Both Hi and Low work. The dash board lights respond accordingly. However.......



Issue 1: My fog lights don't work. I know, I know. This is a common issue. But no where can I find a solution..... It's wierd because when I engage my fog light switch, the beams revert to Hi beam mode, even if they should be in low beam.


Issue 2: I have lost my Hi beam blue indicator light on the dash.



Now I have searched and searched about this site and others and nobody has execatly answered these issues, that I could find. Lot's of band aids, no cures. Is there a cure?


I heard to do the "fog light mod," but then I heard that Double Cab trucks maybe don't work. I do not have DRL/ daytime running lights. Will that fix the issue? Issue exist because mine is an 06 Double Cab?


I also read that you have to "fool" the Toyota computer into thinking the lights are on, because the HID's have by passed the lighting system/ computer and go directly to the battery itself. I read to install resisters on certain wires, or to re wire things. And then I heard the system get buggy after all of that. How are the professional installers dealing with these issues? Any ideas?



There has got to be a way to have HID's and have working fog lights and a Hi beam indicator lights that still lights up --- I just know it. Any ideas?



I also bought HID's for my fog lights. I want to get them installed, but I'm not going to bother until I get power restored to them as it normally would work...



Please help if you have any ideas!!!!!!!




Mike






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RCsTundra
If I were you Id make or buy a relay harness. I made my own bixenon harness and I dont have any of the problems youre having but Im using OEM parts, it could be your HID kit?

Also our Tundras dont need resistors to fool the system like BMWs and Mercedes etc. do so dont worry about that.

Im sure someone that can help you will chime in soon.......
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RCsTundra said:
If I were you Id make or buy a relay harness. I made my own bixenon harness and I dont have any of the problems youre having but Im using OEM parts, it could be your HID kit?

Also our Tundras dont need resistors to fool the system like BMWs and Mercedes etc. do so dont worry about that.

Im sure someone that can help you will chime in soon.......
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Thx for the reply!


The Bi-Xenon kit I bought was a very high quality kit -- not a eBay special. The bulbs, ballasts, connections, wires are high quality -- as good as oem. I just don't think there is an issue in the kit.

My buddy used to work at a car dealership and one thought he had was a possible relay issue. Was your thought to attach/ run a relay off the abandoned side oem 3 prong? My buddy opined that a relay would keep a current running through the wire, which the truck expects.


Any way, I'm a DIY'er type of guy, but if I can't figure out this issue I guess i'll reluctantly raise the white flag and bring into an auto electronics place in town and have them complete the install/ troubleshoot/ fix my mess. Although it would absolutely pain me to do this.... :cool:



I am confused on this one!!!!:confused::confused::confused:





Mike
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Marauder
Look up the fog light mod for your truck, you have to do that after installing HID's.
After I did my retrofit on my access cab, I did the "anytime fog mod" and now I can turn on my fog lights whenever I want and they turn off when the key is off. You'll have to find the on for a double cab w/o DRL. Best to search for "fog" in the electrical forum. Some of the threads have lots of links to different ones.

I haven't heard of a way to get the high beam indicators to work. Mine doesn't work, but with my retrofit, its so obvious if you have the highs on while driving at night, since I put out a ton of light with a 55w kit and the acura projectors.
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Here's one thread I found.
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/member-mods/36471-dc-foglight-mod/
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Marauder said:
Look up the fog light mod for your truck, you have to do that after installing HID's.
After I did my retrofit on my access cab, I did the "anytime fog mod" and now I can turn on my fog lights whenever I want and they turn off when the key is off. You'll have to find the on for a double cab w/o DRL. Best to search for "fog" in the electrical forum. Some of the threads have lots of links to different ones.

I haven't heard of a way to get the high beam indicators to work. Mine doesn't work, but with my retrofit, its so obvious if you have the highs on while driving at night, since I put out a ton of light with a 55w kit and the acura projectors.
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Your retrofits look amazing! Nice job :tu:
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Marauder said:
Here's one thread I found.
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/member-mods/36471-dc-foglight-mod/
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Hey thanks so much Marauder. Very kind! What I'm worried about with that one is his is an 05 DC. I had read somewheres on here that the 06 DC's without DRL's had a unique wire harness from other years. So my question is if anybody would know whether that exact mod would work on my truck, or is my 06 DC different from the author's 05 DC.


All this is soooooo gall dang confusing!!!!!!!!






On a side note: does anybody know what is the best way to get to the internals of the fog lamps? Is it possible to get in there from underneath? Or do I have to take the whole light housings out in there from above?



Thx!




Mike
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Duluth Tundra said:
On a side note: does anybody know what is the best way to get to the internals of the fog lamps? Is it possible to get in there from underneath? Or do I have to take the whole light housings out in there from above?



Thx!




Mike
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You can get to the fogs by sliding underneath the bumper on your back or you can remove the headlights. If youre going to wire the HIDs for your fogs Id just remove the headlights.....if you were going to replace a bulb Id just slide underneath the bumper.
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To do work on the fogs, I'd just remove the bumper cover. It takes only a few minutes to remove all the fastners and then just slides off. That's what I did, to give me access to mount my balasts behind the bumper. Eventually I will do my fogs as well.
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Marauder said:
To do work on the fogs, I'd just remove the bumper cover. It takes only a few minutes to remove all the fastners and then just slides off. That's what I did, to give me access to mount my balasts behind the bumper. Eventually I will do my fogs as well.
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Thanks for the info guys. Marauder, were you planning on following Phil0411's Fog Lite Mod, and do think my 06 DC (I believe you have the same truck) Tundra's wiring is the same as the 05 DC?????? I thought I read somewhere they were different -- the 06 DC wires were different from 00-05 and access cab models. Am I out to lunch here or does any body know the answer to this?????



How tough is it to remove the front bumper cover? If it's easy that would be the way to go I think.


Removing the light assemblies means undoing all the work I did buttoning the truck back together yesterday. My initial thought was to just go from underneath, but there are these black plastic covers down there that have both clips and bolts and did not want to come off......


Am I overthinking this? Is the removal of those covers easier than I am thinking?


I guess if anybody can confirm the 06 DC wiring then I just might do Phil0411's fog lite mod tomorrow on my truck! Anybody know????




Thx!




Mike
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No, I have an access cab, so my wiring is different. I did do a mod where I took the steering cover off and spliced one wire to another to get the fog light switch to work.

Taking the bumper cover off is super easy. My buddy who helped me said "dang, that's all there is to it?! I am going to steal me a bunch of bumpers now!" =)
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Marauder said:
No, I have an access cab, so my wiring is different. I did do a mod where I took the steering cover off and spliced one wire to another to get the fog light switch to work.

Taking the bumper cover off is super easy. My buddy who helped me said "dang, that's all there is to it?! I am going to steal me a bunch of bumpers now!" =)
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Hey Marauder, how does a guy remove the bumper cover?




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Duluth Tundra said:
Hey Marauder, how does a guy remove the bumper cover?




Mike
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You gotta learn how to use the search feature or even better.....download you a factory service manual, its free.


Click on this link:
Toyota Tacoma/ 4Runner/ Tundra/ FJ Cruiser Factory Service Manual Page

then scroll down toward the bottom of the page till you find:
2004-2006 Toyota Tundra FSM 1GR-FE & 2UZ-FE

This version contains multiple PDF files that are linked in separate index pages for access. The FSMs included are the New Features Manual, Repair Manual, and Wiring Manual.​
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Online Version
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Full FSM File Download (60.7 MB)

Then save the full file download to your computer and get to work. ;)
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Thanks Marauder, I'm going to print that out Monday after everyone else leaves the office.......


The boss will think I'm "working" late! :tu::tu::tu::tu:





Thx again!





Mike
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Duluth Tundra said:
Thanks Marauder, I'm going to print that out Monday after everyone else leaves the office.......


The boss will think I'm "working" late! :tu::tu::tu::tu:





Thx again!





Mike
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Im RC not Marauder. :boink: :D

Just a FYI when you open it up itll open through internet explorer and you can browse whatever page you want.......in case you want to remove the bumper now instead of waiting to print it out.

Good luck! :tu:
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Duluth Tundra said:
Issue 1: My fog lights don't work. I know, I know. This is a common issue. But no where can I find a solution..... It's wierd because when I engage my fog light switch, the beams revert to Hi beam mode, even if they should be in low beam.


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Duluth Tundra, have you figure out how to fix the fog lights? I'm in the same situation.
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Duluth Tundra said:
Issue 1: My fog lights don't work. I know, I know. This is a common issue. But no where can I find a solution..... It's wierd because when I engage my fog light switch, the beams revert to Hi beam mode, even if they should be in low beam.


Issue 2: I have lost my Hi beam blue indicator light on the dash.
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How did u end up fixing it? Im having the same exact problem and i've been trying to fix it for the last 2 wks! its so frustrating.. please respond.. thanks! mine is a 2001 access cab but im sure the solution should be the same.
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Duluth Tundra, have you figure out how to fix the fog lights? I'm in the same situation.
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Did you get yours to work?
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Did you get yours to work?
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Is your HID kit a 35W or 55W? Are you using a relay harness?


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