limited vs Offroad

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hit_em

Discussion Starter · Mar 21, 2007

I'm planning on getting a limited but after what they told me what they would give for my 06 I might get the off road. I'm just wondering if anyones been able to tell a big difference between the limited 10 speakers and the offroads 6 speakers?? Also does anyone know an approximent value to switch the seat from cloth to leather and add heated seats?

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hit_em

Discussion Starter · #2 · Mar 21, 2007

or should I just ask how good is the 10 speaker stereo system? on a scale 1 to 10 how would you rate it?

Stripped Honda

· #3 · Mar 21, 2007

so far i love my limited the navigation was the major seller for me but the 10 speaker sound system is just awesome i would rate it at a 9 because i havent tuned it perfectly yet (i have only had the truck 3 days and havent had much time to play with it)

i would go with the limited

bgil

· #4 · Mar 21, 2007

hit_em said:
I'm planning on getting a limited but after what they told me what they would give for my 06 I might get the off road. I'm just wondering if anyones been able to tell a big difference between the limited 10 speakers and the offroads 6 speakers?? Also does anyone know an approximent value to switch the seat from cloth to leather and add heated seats?

I was quoted about 18-1900 for aftermarket leather with heated seats. The heated seat part was about 500 bucks..

THey do a great job, though. Equal to or better then factory.

Jumbo Jet

· #5 · Mar 21, 2007

hit_em said:
or should I just ask how good is the 10 speaker stereo system? on a scale 1 to 10 how would you rate it?

Having come from a pretty good Boston setup in my last truck I would give the JBL a 5, maybe 6. The amp is tiny and under the front passengers seat, and the overall sound is good if youre used to factory radios. The controls leave much to be desired in the tweaking area. They only allow for trebel, mids and bass. And the degree of change is minimal at best.

Dont get me wrong, it will play loud and pretty clear at that level, but just not as clean as I was hoping it would. A lot of it depends on your source too. The iPod playing sounds alot better than FM radio does, but thats to be expected.

if you ever plan on upgrading in the future with high quality aftermarket, then I would just go with the standard setup.

laytonj1

· #6 · Mar 21, 2007

Having come from a pretty good Boston setup in my last truck I would give the JBL a 5, maybe 6. The amp is tiny and under the front passengers seat, and the overall sound is good if youre used to factory radios. The controls leave much to be desired in the tweaking area. They only allow for trebel, mids and bass. And the degree of change is minimal at best.

The JBL system in the Limited with Nav is a ten speaker with subwoofer and huge 440 watt, 8 channel amp thats that takes up the whole back seat floor under the "60" seat. It's a pretty good system and sounds great.

I'm planning on getting a limited but after what they told me what they would give for my 06 I might get the off road.

By "off road" are you refering to the SR5?

Jim

Buckeyefan

· #7 · Mar 21, 2007

The 6 speaker system is horrendous. But this coming from a guy with dual 10's in a custom box under the back seat, a 1200 watt monobloc amp, a $500 head unit, and 1 ga. wire running to my battery.

JBL is not a high end system. Neigher is Bose or Harman Kardon. It's impressive to those outside of audio, but you'll do much better with aftermarket equipment for similar pricing. If you like the stock look, stick with JBL.

hit_em

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 21, 2007

yes I'm refering to the sr5 with the offroad package. is there a subwoofer in a limited w/o the nav. I have looked and drove them but never looked under the rear seat, or tested the stereo, I had the old man with me he's more into listening for little things, and I like to rock

Jumbo Jet

· #9 · Mar 21, 2007

laytonj1 said:
The JBL system in the Limited with Nav is a ten speaker with subwoofer and huge 440 watt, 8 channel amp thats that takes up the whole back seat floor under the "60" seat. It's a pretty good system and sounds great.

By "off road" are you refering to the SR5?

Jim

The amp on my 07 Limited with JBL with out nav. is under my front passengers seat and measures 8"x6". Tiny compared to aftermarket amps even in the 200w catagory. The subs are under the rear seat and actually only take up about less than half the back seat, and the enclosure measure 26"x 10" at their widest points. Granted it sounds better than just about any other OEM system out there, the adjustments leave much to be desired, and the sound could be a bit cleaner. In the land of audiophiles, JBL is not a top notch system, but if you dont know any different it should sound great.

But given the quality of the rest of the truck, I'm just splitting hairs I guess.

radicalwillie

· #10 · Mar 21, 2007

Not sure if all areas offer the same options, but I have an SR5 With the TRD Off Road package and it has a JBL 8 speaker plus a sub with a 440 watt amp (no nav). I would agree that it is no where near the quality you can get with aftermarket equipment but it is far and away better than the JBL 8 speaker setup in my '05 Tundra was.

hit_em

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 21, 2007

do you know what size the subs are? I love a good stereo I had the q-logic box and stelth box in my 06 ac, but recently unistalled them because I want to trade it in. would it be possible to switch out the subs with a better quality subwoofer like a jlaudio or something?

laytonj1

· #12 · Mar 21, 2007

In the land of audiophiles, JBL is not a top notch system, but if you dont know any different it should sound great.

Back in the 70's, early 80's JBL's were a top home and commercial speaker systems maker. My how times have changed.
Yes, it sounds great for a "factory" car audio system. If you want top sounds you will have to go aftermarket.
Personally, I'm more into home audio and don't care for loud thumping cars.... getting old I guess.

Jim

Jumbo Jet

· #13 · Mar 21, 2007

hit_em said:
do you know what size the subs are? I love a good stereo I had the q-logic box and stelth box in my 06 ac, but recently unistalled them because I want to trade it in. would it be possible to switch out the subs with a better quality subwoofer like a jlaudio or something?

Not exactly sure what size they are, the enclosure is sealed up pretty good. Someone here probably knows. However it shouldnt be too hard to put a passive aftermarket sub back there. There are only 2 wires going to that enclosure, a blue and a white (+ and -), unplug it and plug in your passive sub. Unless you are bridging two subs together. I think I read somewhere that Bazooka is making the subs for these JBL systems. Dont quote me on that, I just recall seeing that somewhere.

You may need a larger aftermarket amp though. I find it hard to believe that that tiny amp is 440w.

hit_em

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 21, 2007

I'll figure it all out when I get one, I now have made up my mind I'm getting a limited thanks guys. Now I just need them to get me a right price for my trade and a new one, could be a while.

Jumbo Jet

· #15 · Mar 21, 2007

laytonj1 said:
Back in the 70's, early 80's JBL's were a top home and commercial speaker systems maker. My how times have changed.
Yes, it sounds great for a "factory" car audio system. If you want top sounds you will have to go aftermarket.
Personally, I'm more into home audio and don't care for loud thumping cars.... getting old I guess.

Jim

lol, youre not getting old Jim. Agreed, I'll take clean audio over loud distortion any day. Wattage is such a huge selling point for people that are turned on by big numbers. I hear alot of guys tell me their amps ar 1200w or higher. Your ears couldnt physically listen to that.

A good test for good audio is how it sounds at lower volumes. If you are happy or content with the JBL system then thats all that really matters. It depends on your music taste too. A country fan is less likely to listen at the same volume as a rock or hip hop fan.

Buckeyefan

· #16 · Mar 22, 2007

Jumbo Jet said:
You may need a larger aftermarket amp though. I find it hard to believe that that tiny amp is 440w.

That 440w could be rated at very high distortion levels. Car audio and home audio are rated very differently. You also have to take into consideration the impedance of the speakers, and their spl rating. You can take a 40 watt Punch amp and drive your eardrums mad with efficient speakers. You could also take a 1200 watt Bazooka PMiller amp and not move a JL Audio 13W7 in a sealed enclosure properly.

I've got 7 Polk Audio RTi speakers with a 4 ohm nominal impedance rating at 89dB for my home theater system, and struggle driving them with a $1200 Denon 3805 38lb surround receiver. Had I purchased Klipsch speakers, I could be driving them with a $199 Insignia (Best Buy) AVR at ear bleeding levels. Klipsch are very efficient speakers, but some equate them as fatiquing horn loaded towers.

Like the other posters stated, it's not about volume, but SQ (sound quality) at lower levels. I enjoy both loud, chest pounding rock, as well as Diana Krall at lower levels.

I am pulling my hair out trying to find a way to install a 10" or 12" sub in my '06 DC right now, and some where to mount a large monobloc amp. Four 8" woofers just doesn't cut it for me. There's just not enough room in these Toyota's compared to my F150. Music is my passion, so this will happen one way or another.

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