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Hello all! New to this board and Tundras. I currently have a 2005 4Runner SR5 V6 4x4 and have been thinking about getting something different. I have had the 4Runner for a little over 3 years and has been good to me but I starting to want a truck more. With the current 0%/60month with $1,000 off at my dealer, it seems like a good time to buy. I've been leaning toward a 4.6 DC 4x4. I've been doing research on the 4.6L and I think it maybe the motor for my needs. I will be test driving sometime this week and plan to drive both a 5.7 and 4.6. I do not do any towing as of right now and this will be my daily driver. I looking for some real world input from 4.6L owners on here to see what they thought about the new motor.
 

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It'll be powerful enough but a lot of them throw CELs within the first few hundred miles. Toyota has issued a TSB and requires some teardown of the engine to replace the spring or whatnot.

I'd go with with the 5.7 knowing that the chances of actually being affected are higher than you'd think. A few months ago I'd say teh 4.6 b/c it has a lot of potential, especially being in your situation.

Btw, power is only fun for a while, after a while it gets old b/c tires get worn down faster and you're digging into the throttle every chance you can get wtih a quality exhaust system (insert plug for Borla mr creosote) lol

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If you are set on the 4.6. Don't test drive the 5.7!:becky:
Oh soo true. I wanted the 4.6 and already had one picked out and the paperwork was awaiting finance manager to complete his part.. But then, a friend of mine told me to explore all my options to include the 5.7. I test drove the 5.7 and had the dealership change the paperwork for the 5.7... =)

5.7 is simply amazing. :becky:
 

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I also wanted a the small v8 when I went to buy a tundra, but the sales guy said the 5.7 got better fuel milage. It did only 1 MPG, but it still did. I dont tow anything with my truck and it is also my daily driver. I am glad to get the 5.7 cause if I need the power it is there.
 

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I think the 4.6 is certainly an improvement over the old 4.7 however, the 5.7 is still the way to go imo. The difference in gas mileage is hardly worth mentioning and as far as power, let's just say merging with traffic on the highway is not an issue.
 

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if the 4.6 and the 5.7 are the same motor then you should be good to go, just depends on how much extra you want to pay for the extra power.
 

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Thanks for the input guys. I'm gonna have to test drive before I can make a decision. What really draws me towards the 4.6L is the lower price versus the 5.7L. What has everyone been paying lately based on retail. I can't imagine in this market that dealers have charging full retail on these trucks. Some of the models I have been looking at are around $31k retail. What do you think I should start at when the haggling begins?
 

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well, with all these incentives, there may not be as much room for haggling that you might think. Seems a lot of people are having the same idea to 'buy now'. BUT to answer your question. The 5.7 is now showing itself as a proven engine. If you test drive it, you're gonna buy it. Pretty sure.......

As for gas mileage, the 4.6 is better. But the margin is small enough that driving style can eclipse that difference.
 

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For a couple of more coins, get the 5.7L if you want to get in on the good deals now. Otherwise wait until next year for the 4.6L for them to work out the issues......
 

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It's your truck, you have to live with it. Most of the people who settle for the smaller motor without regrets never have to ask advice because they know what their needs are, they know what will meet them, and they don't need or want a hot rod. The people who ask and agonize are worried about how much they're giving up to go smaller, a sure sign that the bigger motor is a better bet in their case.

Based on real world conditions, all will depend on how the truck is driven. I have managed 18.7 on long road trips with 60-65 mph cruising speeds in my 09 Crewmax 5.7 4x4. 1-2 mpg less than what a 4.6 is supposed to be capable of in the right configuration and driving conditions. But mine is one of the heaviest versions of the truck and I'd do better if I kept her to 55.

People have posted on here talking about how disappointed they are that they can't do better than 17 or 18 mpg in their 4.6 at their normal 70-75 mph cruising speeds. There are tons of people who, like me, can match or come close to matching the 4.6's rated numbers in their 5.7 if they drive it right. The 4.6, when driven in the real world like alot of people drive, going stop light to stop light, flooring it to merge, and cruising at 70 mph and above, won't match its rated numbers. And any supposed advantages will diminish even further. The 5.7 just won't work as hard under the same circumstances. The mpg advantage isn't always about smaller displacement. It's about horsepower to weight ratio and rpms.

I would probaly think it's safe to say you can buy the bigger engine and get the mpg difference between a 5.7 and 4.6 down to almost nothing if you know how to drive. But there is nothing you can alter in driving style and conditions to pull another 70 horsepower and 75 pound feet of torque from the 4.6 when you need or want it.

It really comes down to initial purchase price and what you want to live with. Having something impressive happen when I dip into the go-pedal is important to me so the 5.7 was my only option. If you go for the small motor it should be beceause you don't care about or need the added capacity and performance of the 5.7, not because you want the bigger engine but don't want to spend more money. Life is too short and vehicles are too costly for you to settle for less than what you'd really like to drive day in, day out for the next 3-5 years or longer. Cheaping out on what you really want can actually be more expensive in the long run than spending more money for the right truck. Just ask people who are in a new truck every 1-3 years because there is something else on the option list they just have to have that they don't already.
 

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^^^ Good Answer - take that to the bank.
 

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Thanks for the additional input guys. I think I will re-think my decision to focus on the 4.6L as my engine choice. At the point I just need to go the dealer and test drive a 5.7 and 4.6.
 

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Thanks for the additional input guys. I think I will re-think my decision to focus on the 4.6L as my engine choice. At the point I just need to go the dealer and test drive a 5.7 and 4.6.
Good luck. I got what I'd consider an average deal. Mine is an 09 Crewmax 5.7 4x4, SR5 with tow package, purchased March of last year. It stickered around 36, I got it for about low 33s before trade, with taxes and fees included. They gave me 1K more than what most calculators told me my trade was worth. You could interpret it as them finding an extra 1000 dollars in the deal for me if you wish. I wouldn't pay more than 30 or so for any double cab unless it was an LTD. My prediction for the test drive: the 5.7 will win by far more than a nose. As someone else has said, if you get behind the wheel of a 5.7 truck it will probably seal the deal for you unless the initial purchase price difference is really that much of a deal breaker. If you don't want to put it in the equation, don't even drive it. I believe a double cab 4x4 5.7 will hit 0-60 in the mid 6s, easy mainstream sports sedan territory.
 

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I have the 4.6L and have no regrets but I'm not towing 10K lbs and I don't need the extra speed off the line. I'm very happy with the 4.6L. I just got a new owners service manual update and the 4.6L is now on a 10K mile oil change interval while the 5.7 and V6 remain on the 5K mile intervals. Very minor but worth consideration. Get what works for your driving style. The mileage is not a big factor and I found trucks with both engines on the lot in similar price configurations but with different options. It just depends on what features you want. With the 4.6L and the tow package I get about 18 mpg avg with combined hwy and local driving. You could get better without the tow package but what's the point of a truck with no tow package? I drove both before buying. Drive it and pick what you like. I'm happy with mine.
 

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I got my 2010 5.7 Crewmax SR5 in February. Sticker was $37.3k, I got that reduced, with incentives and haggling, to 29.8k. Tax, tag and title took the price to 32k. Here she is at the dealership!





 

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Good luck. I got what I'd consider an average deal. Mine is an 09 Crewmax 5.7 4x4, SR5 with tow package, purchased March of last year. It stickered around 36, I got it for about 32. I wouldn't pay more than 30 or so for any double cab unless it was an LTD. My prediction for the test drive: the 5.7 will win by far more than a nose. As someone else has said, if you get behind the wheel of a 5.7 truck it will probably seal the deal for you unless the initial purchase price difference is really that much of a deal breaker.
My dealer website is terrible for showing what trucks have what options. I was on Toyota's main website using their build program. I select a DC 4x4 5.7 FF std bed as my trim level. When I get the Step 2 Options part, the first option is a $960 tow package that is selected by default. There doesn't seem to be a way to deselect or downgrade this option. Does this mean all 5.7 DC 4x4 have the tow package? Is it just me or are Toyota's option programs kind of confusing?
 

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My dealer website is terrible for showing what trucks have what options. I was on Toyota's main website using their build program. I select a DC 4x4 5.7 FF std bed as my trim level. When I get the Step 2 Options part, the first option is a $960 tow package that is selected by default. There doesn't seem to be a way to deselect or downgrade this option. Does this mean all 5.7 DC 4x4 have the tow package? Is it just me or are Toyota's option programs kind of confusing?
Others here could give you a better in depth explanation of the options program. Best I could tell you is yes, Toyota's options program is not quite like most other manufacturers as I understand it. I don't believe that filling out an options sheet and having your exact truck built to your exact specifications on the assembly line is as simple of a proposition as if you were buying a Ford, Dodge, or Chevy. I test-drove and then took mine off the lot because I like to see it and buy it, and am weary of all the drama that can come from putting a deposit down then waiting. The 5.7 may well automatically trigger the tow package but I am not sure.
 

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I got my 2010 5.7 Crewmax SR5 in February. Sticker was $37.3k, I got that reduced, with incentives and haggling, to 29.8k. Tax, tag and title took the price to 32k. Here she is at the dealership!





Yours is pretty much a replica of my 09 minus the minor cosmetic changes for 2010 and that my steps are black powdercoated aftermarket ones. I know black will prove to be a challenge to keep up. It will probably require alot of TLC after the fiance has been responsible for looking after it throughout this northeast winter while I've been away. Unlike me, she's not one to get out and do a quick hand-wash and wax as soon as the temps go above freezing for a few days. But it was like having a supermodel walk up to you in a slinky black evening dress in a bar. She stood out like a sore thumb from the silver and blue next to her and there was no saying no.
 
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