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3 weeks ago I had to pick up some parts and strolled over to the showroom. There were 2 V8 DBL cabs and 1 V6 regular cab long bed under a tent. I was impressed with the amount of space behind the seats of the regular cab. It looks like I can get almost the same amount of tools back there as my T-100 Xtra cab. The bed is huge at 8ft +. Could be a great work truck to replace the T-100. Last week I went back to parts to pick up some items on back order. This time I went into the showroom. I grabbed the salesman that sold us our Camry hybrid earlier this year. I wanted to test drive the V6. I expected it to be a dog. It wasn't. More than enough power for what I need it for. It stickers out at $24,156, I think. Of course he wants to sell me the truck. I tell him that I'll pay cash, like the Camry, but not sticker. He talks to his boss. He'll only come down $500 off sticker. That was that, and they let me leave. So, this morning the salesman calls. They'll knock $2,000 off if I want it today. Same terms. It's tempting, but I think I should hold out until the end of next month. My T-100 is near mint and still a youngster at 112K miles. I'm not in a pinch, but the Tundra is really nice! I just think that the dealer will come down even more. Does anyone agree?
 

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Yes you can do better, the current incentive on a Reg cab work truck is a $2000 rebate. Tell them $2000 off plus the $2000 rebate and they have a deal.
 

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Dunno about that V6....thats a lot of weight for the engine to move around not counting that you are hauling. Your gas mileage wont be good I don't think. Go with the 4.7.
 

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Over $24k for a V6 regular cab work truck?

My 06 Access Cab V8 2WD w/ TRD package stickered for just over $3k more than that. And I ended up getting it for approx. the sticker price of the 07 V6.

An 07 Silverado 2WD V6 starts at about $18,700. And You can probably get them to knock at least $2k off without breaking a sweat. Even if you think the Tundra is gonna be a lot more reliable than the Silverado, you'll have saved more than enough money to pay for any repairs you need (and your powertrain will be warranteed for 100k miles/ 5 years) and still have money left over. Something to think about at least.
 

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What dealer did you go to I on LI as well Chirs in smithtown hocked me up go there and ask for him in the truck shop tell paul sent you he'll take care of you



P.S. He don't have any in stock but he'll get you what you want and a good deal for cash it probley be real good
 

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I agree they should come down more.

On the issue of the V6 truck, I started out thinking that the V6 reg cab long bed would be the best choice for me. But then the V6 does not include a tow hitch -- if you're looking at a V6 obviously you're not thinking about towing anything big, but still... a hitch for light-duty casual towing might be handy. Well, the 4.7 V-8 truck is just $1100 more. The accessory Toyota hitch lists for $820. Admittedly steep and you can get an aftermarket one for much less, but that $1100 buys you a very nice hitch AND a V-8 engine.

Food for thought...
 

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And unbelievable as it sounds, you may get better mileage with a V8 (esp. the 5.7L) if you drive with normal accelerations and loads. I didn't believe the dealer when they told me this (I'm a real skeptic about anything a salesman tells me) until I started calculating mileage on my 5.7. It's alleged to be attributable to a better power/weight ratio and later technology in the 5.7L (two examples being acoustic inlet technology and variable valve timing). See my following post with to my real-world spreadsheet data on 5.7L mileage:

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/tundra/87976-2007-5-7-fuel-mileage/#post607155
 

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Yes you can do better, the current incentive on a Reg cab work truck is a $2000 rebate. Tell them $2000 off plus the $2000 rebate and they have a deal.

$4K off the sticker would be nearly $1500 under invoice, according to Edmunds. That might be a long shot. We'll see tomorrow when the salesman is back. Seeing that it's not the end of the month anymore, I'm curious to see how anxious he'll be. I'd be thrilled to get it for $4K under sticker though!
 

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3 weeks ago I had to pick up some parts and strolled over to the showroom. There were 2 V8 DBL cabs and 1 V6 regular cab long bed under a tent. I was impressed with the amount of space behind the seats of the regular cab. It looks like I can get almost the same amount of tools back there as my T-100 Xtra cab. The bed is huge at 8ft +. Could be a great work truck to replace the T-100. Last week I went back to parts to pick up some items on back order. This time I went into the showroom. I grabbed the salesman that sold us our Camry hybrid earlier this year. I wanted to test drive the V6. I expected it to be a dog. It wasn't. More than enough power for what I need it for. It stickers out at $24,156, I think. Of course he wants to sell me the truck. I tell him that I'll pay cash, like the Camry, but not sticker. He talks to his boss. He'll only come down $500 off sticker. That was that, and they let me leave. So, this morning the salesman calls. They'll knock $2,000 off if I want it today. Same terms. It's tempting, but I think I should hold out until the end of next month. My T-100 is near mint and still a youngster at 112K miles. I'm not in a pinch, but the Tundra is really nice! I just think that the dealer will come down even more. Does anyone agree?
I agree. Dealers and salesmen go through a series of pitches and phases to get the most from you possible. They almost ALWAYS start with a story about selling at sticker or close to it. They also almost ALWAYS come back with a better offer, and an even better one. They also have a lot of different places in a deal where they can make money. The selling price of the vehicle is the first one, the trade-in (if applicable) is the second one, then there's dealer financing, and finally the extended warranty (if you buy one). Those all have nice profit margins for a dealer, and that's not even mentioning the hold-back they get from the manufacturer.

Be patient. Work with several dealers. The way I worked mine was I found a truck I liked at several dealers and I was making offers to all of them. Some of them came a little off sticker, and some came way off. It's a game. Play it. And buy your truck from the one 'who comes off the mostest fastest.' :D
 

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What dealer did you go to I on LI as well Chirs in smithtown hocked me up go there and ask for him in the truck shop tell paul sent you he'll take care of you

I went to Atlantic. If you're willing to spend the time they'll usually play ball, eventually. When I was shopping for my '03 Tacoma I ended up buying it there. Smithtown would only move $1.2K under sticker, firm. That truck stickered at $26,650-ish. Atlantic sold me the truck for $23,350. Same truck. That's a big difference. My sister ended up buying her Sequioa there, my brother a Highlander. It is what it is. Sunrise seems to be quite inflexible too. However, I did buy my '05 Tacoma at Smithtown. The '05s had just come out, and I wanted a white DBL cab LB Sport specifically. Anthony in internet sales did well by me given that the '05s had only hit the lots a week before, and there were only 2 in the northeast at that moment. Halfway to invoice was OK by me at the time. Regardless, I wouldn't be so anxious again. Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'll try over at Smithtown for this one.
 

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I agree they should come down more.

On the issue of the V6 truck, I started out thinking that the V6 reg cab long bed would be the best choice for me. But then the V6 does not include a tow hitch -- if you're looking at a V6 obviously you're not thinking about towing anything big, but still... a hitch for light-duty casual towing might be handy. Well, the 4.7 V-8 truck is just $1100 more. The accessory Toyota hitch lists for $820. Admittedly steep and you can get an aftermarket one for much less, but that $1100 buys you a very nice hitch AND a V-8 engine.

Food for thought...
LMC,

For this particular truck, I probably wouldn't ever tow with it. I just have alot of tools to transport from job to job. Materials are usually delivered. Occasionally I have to supplement and grab 8' goods. Sometimes 10' items. After all of these years working out of 6' beds, I need an upgrade. That's what has me interested, plus the room behind the seats. When and if I do need to tow, my Tacoma has a towing package. If I jump up to a V8, the price goes higher. One thing about spending less is that I'll be less freaked about the truck getting trashed. For me it's just easier to accept. I experience higher than usual pain from my vehicles, even work vehicles, getting parking lot whipped. That's due to me buying luxury trucks for work. Dumb maybe. However, this V6 Tundra would be basically a stripper and I'll be fine with it getting bonked. I've wrapped my mind around the concept. My family and friends absolutely don't believe me! I'll show 'em all.;)
 

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And unbelievable as it sounds, you may get better mileage with a V8 (esp. the 5.7L) if you drive with normal accelerations and loads. I didn't believe the dealer when they told me this (I'm a real skeptic about anything a salesman tells me) until I started calculating mileage on my 5.7. It's alleged to be attributable to a better power/weight ratio and later technology in the 5.7L (two examples being acoustic inlet technology and variable valve timing). See my following post with to my real-world spreadsheet data on 5.7L mileage:

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/tundra/87976-2007-5-7-fuel-mileage/#post607155
I believe it's a fact, better mpg with a V8. But you sir, are a true hauler. I've seen your posts. I'm real lightweight in comparison. Just hauling tools, and occasionally lumber and other such BS. My gut is that the 4.0 V6 will be fine for my needs. Also, I'm not much of a leadfoot anymore.
 

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I find it interesting that they called you back on the last day of the month/quarter with the better offer and stated you would need to purchase the vechicle today to get the reduced price. Have seen numerous posts on this site that speculated dealers are willing to give greater discounts at end of month, and your experience seems to bear this out. Next time I'm in the market, I'll be shopping on the last day of the month.
 

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The end of the month is when the dealers want minimal inventory. They have to pay DIT (dealer inventory tax) on every unit on the lot. Secondly they have to pay insurance for all those units too. Lots of money towards the final numbers equaling their gross overhead. They would rather make a smaller profit if they can keep from paying several thousand $$ in taxes. I am in agreement. Make them wait for you. Make them meet your price. They are the ones with something to sell. They want your money but you can spend it anywhere and they know that. Make em' sit up and beg. LOL
 

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The end of the month is when the dealers want minimal inventory. They have to pay DIT (dealer inventory tax) on every unit on the lot. Secondly they have to pay insurance for all those units too. Lots of money towards the final numbers equaling their gross overhead. They would rather make a smaller profit if they can keep from paying several thousand $$ in taxes. I am in agreement. Make them wait for you. Make them meet your price. They are the ones with something to sell. They want your money but you can spend it anywhere and they know that. Make em' sit up and beg. LOL

I bought my '03, off the lot, on May 30th '03. The dealer dropped nearly down to invoice. An end of the month buy does seem to put you on top. BTW, the son of an associate of mine works at a Toyota dealership in sales. Today, he told me that because of the huge dollars spent on the ad campaign for the Tundra, it's total units sold target, and new monthly total dealership units sold quotas insisted on by Toyota corporate, that they'll be willing to deal for real. I guess I'll have a month to make up my mind now.
 

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I bought my '03, off the lot, on May 30th '03. The dealer dropped nearly down to invoice. An end of the month buy does seem to put you on top.
Same thing with me. I bought my 06 on March 29th 2006 (end of the month and end of the quarter), and got a very near-invoice price. On top of that, the finance guy needed to "pad" his sales, so I got gap insurance and a 6-year platinum warranty for a total of $600. Normally I don't go for extended warranties, but the offer was too good to pass up.
 
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