I agree. Yeah it does look a little like the ram & a little like a ford. But that's alright.
I know what one i'd rather have.....oh, i already have it.
I know what one i'd rather have.....oh, i already have it.
The 07 Tundra Looks Tough
Allot of members are complaining that the 07 looks like a Ram and claim that they prefer the styling of the previous gen..
Grow Up.
The '97 F-150 design served as the basis for the also-ran last-generation Tundra.
The previous gen is soft looking and was in desperate need of a redo. Sales were at a standstill because most of us want BIG, BOLD and TOUGH looking trucks.
The new gen. is not perfect but it is a huge leap forward both mechanically and stylistically from the previous gen..
Accept that fact and the inner turmoil of owning a previous gen. will subside.
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Grow Up.
The '97 F-150 design served as the basis for the also-ran last-generation Tundra.
The previous gen is soft looking and was in desperate need of a redo. Sales were at a standstill because most of us want BIG, BOLD and TOUGH looking trucks.
The new gen. is not perfect but it is a huge leap forward both mechanically and stylistically from the previous gen..
Accept that fact and the inner turmoil of owning a previous gen. will subside.
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Hold on there. First, what is the point of this thread other than to start fights with people? You'll probably deny it but that's exactly what you're doing. Where do you get off telling people to grow up? You even say people "prefer" the previous gen. which implies they are giving their OPINION. Even if they were complaining, who are you to stop them and to tell them to grow up? Why are you bashing people simply because they have not fallen head over heels for the new Tundra and think the previous gen. looks better? I am one of the people who think the new Tundra's front end looks very similar to a Dodge. I have not "complained" about it to use your words, just stating my opinion on the matter. Yes, the 2000-2002 Tundras looked very similar to the F-150 of that time. It's not big of a stretch to think that since Toyota made a truck that looked similar to another brand before that they may have done it again?Allot of members are complaining that the 07 looks like a Ram and claim that they prefer the styling of the previous gen..
Grow Up.
The '97 F-150 design served as the basis for the also-ran last-generation Tundra.
The previous gen is soft looking and was in desperate need of a redo. Sales were at a standstill because most of us want BIG, BOLD and TOUGH looking trucks.
The new gen. is not perfect but it is a huge leap forward both mechanically and stylistically from the previous gen..
Accept that fact and the inner turmoil of owning a previous gen. will subside.
I think everyone can agree the new Tundra is a huge improvement mechanically but as far as styling, that is personal opinion. Why are you bashing the previous gen. of Tundras and saying we need to "accept the facts and the inner turmoil of owning a previous gen. will subside?" I, for one, have no "inner turmoil" because I own a previous gen. I think the previous gen. DC looks better than the 07 but that is MY OPINION and I would never force my opinion on someone else, like you are doing right now.
Please support your claim with VERIFIABLE numbers that "most of us want BIG, BOLD and TOUGH looking trucks." Also, please support your claim that it is FACT that the new Tundra is better mechanically and stylistically.
Not crazy about the new design myself but you can't argue about the big truck specs. and performance. I will probably buy a new 5.7 4X4 D/C soon but I sure am having a problem giving up my great running, low milage, easy to park 01 A/C 4X4. Now, if they would have put that running gear in the past model Double Cab, but they didn't, so I guess I'll have to live with the new body style.
Just getting tired of previous gen. owners coming on here and bashing the new design for looking like a Ram when they have a rehashed 97 F-150.
The next gen. is a huge leap forward if you actually care to study the specs, design and engineering.
Kudos to Toyota for giving us a real 1/2 ton.
The next gen. is a huge leap forward if you actually care to study the specs, design and engineering.
Kudos to Toyota for giving us a real 1/2 ton.
Personally, I always thought the Ram was the best looking pickup on the road. Obviously, Dodge is not the most reliable brand out there. But, now I have an 07' Tundra that has simliar physical characteristics without the mechanical headaches. And, I love the "Dodge" front end...very aggressive and now looks like a truck should.Just getting tired of previous gen. owners coming on here and bashing the new design for looking like a Ram when they have a rehashed 97 F-150.
The next gen. is a huge leap forward if you actually care to study the specs, design and engineering.
Kudos to Toyota for giving us a real 1/2 ton.
Personally, I always thought the Ram was the best looking pickup on the road. Obviously, Dodge is not the most reliable brand out there. But, now I have an 07' Tundra that has simliar physical characteristics without the mechanical headaches. And, I love the "Dodge" front end...very aggressive and now looks like a truck should.
I feel that exact way too! :tu:
I think everyone can agree the new Tundra is a huge improvement mechanically but as far as styling, that is personal opinion. Why are you bashing the previous gen. of Tundras and saying we need to "accept the facts and the inner turmoil of owning a previous gen. will subside?" I, for one, have no "inner turmoil" because I own a previous gen. I think the previous gen. DC looks better than the 07 but that is MY OPINION and I would never force my opinion on someone else, like you are doing right now.
Please support your claim with VERIFIABLE numbers that "most of us want BIG, BOLD and TOUGH looking trucks." Also, please support your claim that it is FACT that the new Tundra is better mechanically and stylistically.[/QUOTE]
I personally think my '04 was a better looking truck, but the '07 is growing on me every time I fire up the 5.7, spend some time behind the wheel and look at the standard safety features and there your facts. Remains to be seen if the '07 is as bulletproof as the previous generation. All toyota trucks are great trucks, but none have this ones performance.
Please support your claim with VERIFIABLE numbers that "most of us want BIG, BOLD and TOUGH looking trucks." Also, please support your claim that it is FACT that the new Tundra is better mechanically and stylistically.[/QUOTE]
I personally think my '04 was a better looking truck, but the '07 is growing on me every time I fire up the 5.7, spend some time behind the wheel and look at the standard safety features and there your facts. Remains to be seen if the '07 is as bulletproof as the previous generation. All toyota trucks are great trucks, but none have this ones performance.
I think the differences of opinion are inevitable whenever you have a drastic redesign. Keep in mind most makes and models "morph" their designs from year to year with very small changes. A new grill here, new wheels there, different head/tail light lens, etc. It's only when you have total re-design that you run into the situation if either loving it or hating it. That's where we are on the Tundra.
It's only natural to be skeptical of a design that's different from the truck you love so much. Nothing wrong with that, but over time I guarantee you all of the previous Tundra owners will fall in love with the new one. Either that, or they'll be driving other trucks and that won't happen in too many instances.
It's only natural to be skeptical of a design that's different from the truck you love so much. Nothing wrong with that, but over time I guarantee you all of the previous Tundra owners will fall in love with the new one. Either that, or they'll be driving other trucks and that won't happen in too many instances.
i have to call bs here. just a few short weeks ago you were on the fence.
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/1gen-tundra/89535-2006-double-cab-ltd-2007-double/
while you are intitled to change your mind. please don't insult the rest of us who prefer the older style to the newer style. looks, i have no doubt about. i prefer the previous. while we will all have to wait to see where the new generation falls in the category of reliability. the previous gen. speaks for itself.
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/1gen-tundra/89535-2006-double-cab-ltd-2007-double/
while you are intitled to change your mind. please don't insult the rest of us who prefer the older style to the newer style. looks, i have no doubt about. i prefer the previous. while we will all have to wait to see where the new generation falls in the category of reliability. the previous gen. speaks for itself.
Allot of members are complaining that the 07 looks like a Ram and claim that they prefer the styling of the previous gen..
Grow Up.
The '97 F-150 design served as the basis for the also-ran last-generation Tundra.
The previous gen is soft looking and was in desperate need of a redo. Sales were at a standstill because most of us want BIG, BOLD and TOUGH looking trucks.
The new gen. is not perfect but it is a huge leap forward both mechanically and stylistically from the previous gen..
Accept that fact and the inner turmoil of owning a previous gen. will subside.
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I have to agree with you. Before the new Tundra was launched I was super hyped and excited. I even went down to the infastructure show just to see it. I was evern paid $60 for my opinion of the new Tundra last June. I have since then drive the new tundra, spent a lot of time inside. Overall, I have pretty much concluded that I like the previous generations truck better. There is no arguing that specs of the new except the mediocre payload capacity.I think everyone can agree the new Tundra is a huge improvement mechanically but as far as styling, that is personal opinion. Why are you bashing the previous gen. of Tundras and saying we need to "accept the facts and the inner turmoil of owning a previous gen. will subside?" I, for one, have no "inner turmoil" because I own a previous gen. I think the previous gen. DC looks better than the 07 but that is MY OPINION and I would never force my opinion on someone else, like you are doing right now
The new Tundra will outsell the previous gen. 2 to 1 in its first year.
Toyota did numerous surveys and focus groups, one of which I was a part of, and the result was always that the previous gen. was too soft.
One goal on the 07 was to toughen up the look and Toyota did a reasonably good job of it. For those who liked the previous gen., the new look will likely never appeal to their tastes.
There's still the Ridgeline.
Toyota did numerous surveys and focus groups, one of which I was a part of, and the result was always that the previous gen. was too soft.
One goal on the 07 was to toughen up the look and Toyota did a reasonably good job of it. For those who liked the previous gen., the new look will likely never appeal to their tastes.
There's still the Ridgeline.
If Toyota keeps the current prices, no they won't. Even if they lower the prices, I doubt it's going to be THAT popular in the first year. Besides those people who need a new truck right now, I'm guessing alot of people are going to wait a year or two to let Toyota work out any bugs.The new Tundra will outsell the previous gen. 2 to 1 in its first year.
Do you have any proof of this?Toyota did numerous surveys and focus groups, one of which I was a part of, and the result was always that the previous gen. was too soft.
What's that supposed to mean?There's still the Ridgeline.
Yes I considered a previous gen., but I have a growing family so looks are secondary to reliability and price.
The previous gen. was based on a 97 F-150. It's definately a more conservative look but to play w/the Big Dawgs Toyota needed a much more aggressive appeal.
As stated, The 07 didn't hit a home run in the looks department but it certainly improves on a rehash of the 97 F-150.
The previous gen. was based on a 97 F-150. It's definately a more conservative look but to play w/the Big Dawgs Toyota needed a much more aggressive appeal.
As stated, The 07 didn't hit a home run in the looks department but it certainly improves on a rehash of the 97 F-150.
Did your focus group conclude that the previous generation was too inexpensive compared to the competition?The new Tundra will outsell the previous gen. 2 to 1 in its first year.
Toyota did numerous surveys and focus groups, one of which I was a part of, and the result was always that the previous gen. was too soft.
No, the focus group that I as part of did not mention pricing at all.
A lot of people dislike the 07 for lots of different reasons, biggest thing I notice is build quality is low compared to previous gen trucks, personally I think its OK not great like I expected from Toyota and all the hype, nothing a new grill and front bumper cant fix, this whole thread is pretty funny whining about other peoples opinions, and dissing the last gen truck to somehow payback the negative comments you've heard of the 07, LOL you really should just get over it, if you bought it, just enjoy the ride cause you're sounding like Dave Peters or other GMI trolls.
Yea, it's payback.
This is an 07 enthusiast forum so if someone comes on here bashing the looks, they are going to have to take some heat. Go on a Ram or F-150 or Titan forum and post up how ugly their truck is and see how long you last.
From what I've read, it's mostly previous gen. owners doing the bashing.
This is an 07 enthusiast forum so if someone comes on here bashing the looks, they are going to have to take some heat. Go on a Ram or F-150 or Titan forum and post up how ugly their truck is and see how long you last.
From what I've read, it's mostly previous gen. owners doing the bashing.
So far, that's alot of what I am seeing as well. I am surprised the Mods allow it, the comments are starting to cross the line, bashing, insulting, baiting, personal attacks, double posting...and so on.Yea, it's payback.
This is an 07 enthusiast forum so if someone comes on here bashing the looks, they are going to have to take some heat. Go on a Ram or F-150 or Titan forum and post up how ugly their truck is and see how long you last.
From what I've read, it's mostly previous gen. owners doing the bashing.
We are starting to violate the rules as well, trying to defend the new Tundra.
Reread the FAQ (Forum Rules) and let's all start trying to be helpful resource for all Toyota's products.
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