[MeTaL]

winters almost at an end here in jersey so i decided to
get my wheels, balanced, aligned, and roates,
also wanted to get my brakes looked at cause i heard some
squeeks, so i took it to my local strauss and auto...
this is where the nightmare begins...

ive gone to them before and never had a problem and now,
im royally screwed, i have 20 inch rims with 45 tires...
also have powerslot rotors in the front...
its a 2000 ac...

so when i get the truck back wednesday im driving home and
over 50 miles an hour the shaking is worse then when i left it there
and when i go to brake the front end vibrates...

so i take it back saturday, they fixed the shaking over 50 mph
but when i brake it still vibrates, they give me an excuse its because
my tires are almost done... so why didnt it do it before i brought it
here...

monday i got so fed up i went there 1 more time,
again they told they they re balanced all 4 twheels and the problem
was the tires... so as it stands im gonna be leaving it at a
mechanic tuesday the 24...

they tested the rotors and told me they arent warped...
could it be the brakes are applying at different times
on each side, anyone have any idea what they did...

im so mad i feel like driving my truck through that stupid store...
when i get the bill from the mechanic im gonna go take it to em
to re-emburse me what i paid...

 

[Picasso]

so when i get the truck back wednesday im driving home and
over 50 miles an hour the shaking is worse then when i left it there
and when i go to brake the front end vibrates...

so i take it back saturday, they fixed the shaking over 50 mph
but when i brake it still vibrates, they give me an excuse its because
my tires are almost done... so why didnt it do it before i brought it
here...

That is an excellent point.

monday i got so fed up i went there 1 more time,
again they told they they re balanced all 4 twheels and the problem
was the tires... so as it stands im gonna be leaving it at a
mechanic tuesday the 24...

they tested the rotors and told me they arent warped...
could it be the brakes are applying at different times
on each side, anyone have any idea what they did...

im so mad i feel like driving my truck through that stupid store...
when i get the bill from the mechanic im gonna go take it to em
to re-emburse me what i paid...

Your symptoms have nothing to do with your brake line pressure or your calipers. It is very likely that they simply didn't balance the tires correctly the first time. The big one is that they over torqued the lug nuts when they put your wheels back on which deformed/warped your rotors. They of course say that your rotors are OK. I seriously doubt their ability to even measure the tolerance of slotted rotors. Very few places know how to deal with anything but a plain rotor. At one brake shop, the guy that I spoke to didn't know what I meant when I said "slotted rotor."

I don't know if anything can be done to get your rotors back in tolerance so that your brakes stop shaking, and I've been looking for a solution to this for a long time. My solution to fix my out of tolerance slotted rotors is to buy two new plain Brembo rotors, which I pick up tomorrow.

You should check the lug nuts right now to see if they are over torqued. If they are in fact over torqued, you would then have something to go back to the shop with. I doubt they would take this as proof that they warped your rotors.

I keep a torque wrench in my truck because many places love their impact wrenches to much. One of the worst offenders of this in my area was Toyota of Dallas. Where possible, I carefully select who touches my wheels because of our truck's susceptibility to rotor warpage from over torqued lug nuts.

Let us know what happens.

Good luck.


Paul

 

[MeTaL]

That is an excellent point.
Your symptoms have nothing to do with your brake line pressure or your calipers. It is very likely that they simply didn't balance the tires correctly the first time. The big one is that they over torqued the lug nuts when they put your wheels back on which deformed/warped your rotors. They of course say that your rotors are OK. I seriously doubt their ability to even measure the tolerance of slotted rotors. Very few places know how to deal with anything but a plain rotor. At one brake shop, the guy that I spoke to didn't know what I meant when I said "slotted rotor."

I don't know if anything can be done to get your rotors back in tolerance so that your brakes stop shaking, and I've been looking for a solution to this for a long time. My solution to fix my out of tolerance slotted rotors is to buy two new plain Brembo rotors, which I pick up tomorrow.

You should check the lug nuts right now to see if they are over torqued. If they are in fact over torqued, you would then have something to go back to the shop with. I doubt they would take this as proof that they warped your rotors.

I keep a torque wrench in my truck because many places love their impact wrenches to much. One of the worst offenders of this in my area was Toyota of Dallas. Where possible, I carefully select who touches my wheels because of our truck's susceptibility to rotor warpage from over torqued lug nuts.

Let us know what happens.

Good luck.


Paul

paul,
im afraid you might be completely correct...
i never knew this was the case either...
whatever happened, they did it, i know that for a fact...

i will keep this updated, as soon as i get an answer,
im so mad

 

[MEvang]

I would have to agree with Picasso, I think they hammered your wheels on with an impact.
They may have made one more mistake, with hat type rotors that are sandwiched between a wheel and hub, they can easily be pulled away from the hub when the wheel is removed. This in itself will not hurt a thing but rust tends to build up inside the bell of the hat. If pulled away from the hub, small bits of rust flakes can fall in between the hub and hat. Then when the rotor is pushed back on and the wheel is installed these bits of rust will not let the rotor sit flat and you have run out.
Before you dispose of your rotors or have them machined, have them remove them and clean the insides out and clean the hubs off. Torque the wheel and try it again.
This could very well help.
Mike

 

[MeTaL]

guys i ended up calling the place and making a fuss,
they ended up replacing my rotors and im
getting them installed at a trusted mechanic as i
write this, hopefully thatll be the end of my problems,
ill update as soon as i get it back

thanks for the help picasso and mevang :tu:

 

[Picasso]

guys i ended up calling the place and making a fuss,
they ended up replacing my rotors and im
getting them installed at a trusted mechanic as i
write this, hopefully thatll be the end of my problems,
ill update as soon as i get it back

thanks for the help picasso and mevang :tu:

Dude,
That's outstanding. Do you contract out your negotiating services?


Paul

 

[MeTaL]

thanx for all the help guys, got the rotos and brake pads,
replaces, feels 1000x better, still have a style vibration
towards the end but i think its the rims that need to
get balanced and maybe rotated, thanx again :tu:

 

[johnnyjay]

I'm having problems with my front end shaking too. It started about 3-4 weeks ago when I had my oil changed and my tires rotated. I took my truck in yesterday to have the brakes looked at and they said my rotors were warped and not covered under warranty. I reminded them that I didn't have problems until they worked on my truck last. So, they turned my rotors for me...and when I left, the vibration was 10 times worse than when I started that day! So, I went back...and without hesitation, they ordered a new set of rotors and I have them installed in 2 days! Let's see if that fixes my problem. If so, I'm happy...if not, I'll be going back again! This time, I'll take it to a brake specialist, not the standard service department where the guy fixes everything!

 

[MEvang]

Who did the work on your Truck? Many times, if the rotors are not machined on the car, they can machine more run out into them.
Mike