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Why are the Tacomas so rare? Is Toyota going out of buisness or having financial problems? We are half way through a model year and I have yet to be able to drive a DC TRD O/R. What gives? The dealers--all of them--seem to care less about selling a car and will not talk price either. I ain't buying till I drive one.

When might we expect the 2006 Tacoma? I have sold my Tundra but have my trusty 91 4X4 PU to tide me over and we can tow the boat with the Jeep so I may just wait for 06. In fact, since Toyota does not seem to be building any TRD DCs so maybe I will have to or maybe even go Nissan. Maybe if I wait until 06 all the loose winshields that make noise, all the cracking bed liners, allthe chipping paint and all the other odd defects will be worked out.

Does Toyota introduce improvements and corrections during a production run or do they continue using defective paint until the following model year?

Cash in hand and no truck to be found!
 
#2 ·
keep searching. I went to toyota.com and found the 8 closest dealers to me. I sent a price quote request to all of them. There was about a 3k price range. I went with the best price and ordered through them in January. I think mainly the first few runs of trucks had problems. My truck was built in January at the Mexico plant and I don't have any of the problems reported by other users. There have been several posts on this and I'm not the only one with no problems. :tu: Toyota new models don't usually show until around Sept.
 
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Dieseler said:
Also seems to depend on the part of the country you are in. Dealership here has at least 5 Taco's on the lot, another one a few hours away is about the same.

Personally I'm waiting for the '06. I refuse to pay $25k to be a Beta tester
Well, yes, they have a few on the lots but no DC TRD O/R packages. I have yet to see one. I have seen TRD Sports but noO/R units. the dealers are trying to tell me that that would be an unusual truck---what the hell does that mean?--for years Toyota has sold TRD O/R trucks and now they don't? The dealerships don't return calls, told me the SnugCap was not available etc.
 
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Two4X4 said:
Well, yes, they have a few on the lots but no DC TRD O/R packages. I have yet to see one. I have seen TRD Sports but noO/R units. the dealers are trying to tell me that that would be an unusual truck---what the hell does that mean?--for years Toyota has sold TRD O/R trucks and now they don't? The dealerships don't return calls, told me the SnugCap was not available etc.
Your stealership is giving you BS :rolleyes: You gotta play the game though and persevere, I started looking in Nov 04 and got mine 03Feb05 :D
They gave me all the same BS youre getting--unusual truck my ass, they are being built at NUMMI every week, mine was built there in Fremont,CA 01/05. :devil:

Dont believe the hype and BTW, my truck has 0 chips and has been OUTSTANDING--my 5th Toyota truck and the quality is still what it was on my other trucks although I will always miss my dearly departed 88 4Runner :cry:
 
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Two4X4 said:
Cash in hand and no truck to be found!
That was my situation exactly one week ago when I posted a request for feedback on this forum. Only one area dealer would order my TRD Sport equiped the way I wanted it, but at a large markup over invoice. I agreed with the majority of the posts - they wanted way too much - and I gave up on them. The problem was I had not been able to find a single truck like I wanted on the ground. Before the day was over however I had found the one truck available in my area (Columbus, Ohio) and it was in my garage!

Don't give up though and keep trying to find your truck - I have driven American trucks and Japanese trucks and commercial trucks for a long time, and I am amazed at how wonderful the '05 Tacoma is - It is an incredibly nice vehicle, and nicer that most of the cars I have owned! My Dee Zee tube steps were delivered yesterday, and I'm heading outside to install them now. Good Luck.
 
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You can find what you want if you are patient. Go onto KBB and build the exact truck you want. It will help to insure that the options that you want are available together. I went out and looked at a truck on a dealer lot that was almost exactly what I wanted (I was also looking at a Tundra). I told them I would think about it. I then got on the phone and started dialing for dollars. :D I already had the truck built on paper and knew what I was willing to pay right down to the dealer dock and tiltle fees. By going the phone route you have taken away a little of the dealers tactics.

I beleive that Toyota is building in batches. So if built inventory is depleted in the rig you want you may need to waite until they build trucks that fit the build options you wanted. I know of three other trucks that were being built all at the same time that had exactly the same options. The interesting thing was the time delay after they were built to get to the dealer. (the truck I got took 3 months to get) 7594, EJ, GY, VD, RL, OG, FE, C4

I would not settle for another brand vehicle personally. There is a reason you can walk on any of the other lots and buy a truck today (IMOP).

The pic below is my truck on a trail head less than 2 weeks after I got it.
 

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#11 ·
Don't believe the hype!

The toyota dealers gave me the same line of crap. So I got tired of waiting for the truck they woulnd't build me and drove 500 miles to North Carolina from New Jersey to get my baby. Man was she worth it. :tu: Goodluck don't give up,get an internet price I paid $500.00 over invoice..
 
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Ground Up said:
You can find what you want if you are patient. Go onto KBB and build the exact truck you want. It will help to insure that the options that you want are available together. I went out and looked at a truck on a dealer lot that was almost exactly what I wanted (I was also looking at a Tundra). I told them I would think about it. I then got on the phone and started dialing for dollars. :D I already had the truck built on paper and knew what I was willing to pay right down to the dealer dock and tiltle fees. By going the phone route you have taken away a little of the dealers tactics.

I beleive that Toyota is building in batches. So if built inventory is depleted in the rig you want you may need to waite until they build trucks that fit the build options you wanted. I know of three other trucks that were being built all at the same time that had exactly the same options. The interesting thing was the time delay after they were built to get to the dealer. (the truck I got took 3 months to get) 7594, EJ, GY, VD, RL, OG, FE, C4

I would not settle for another brand vehicle personally. There is a reason you can walk on any of the other lots and buy a truck today (IMOP).

The pic below is my truck on a trail head less than 2 weeks after I got it.
I probably just don't understand but wha is KBB? Thanks.

Thanks for encouragement but this is the most rediculous thing. I think Toyota must be in some kind of problem to be half way through a year and no trucks out to buy. I think I might should hold off and let this settle out. The only other explanation is manufacturing problems--in the process-- that is reducing the factory output. Why else would you have willing customers with cash in hand and refuse to provide product other than simply not being able to.
 
#13 ·
make your loyalty only to your wallet...not to any dealer.

they love only your money. not you. or your vehicle dreams.

vote with your feet. if they can't give you what you want for the price you want then simply leave. it's really that simple.

find the truck. find your price. it's out there waiting for you. tons of O/R models available around here and around you.

happy hunting
 
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When I was looking two months ago I was looking for a double cab 4x4, 6spd, white. I found a few in the Colorado area that were the TRD offroad. I ended up buying a non TRD down in Enid, OK not to far from you. Look up the dealer down there and talk to Ed, he gave me $500 over invoice and was a real nice guy to work with.

Two4X4 said:
I probably just don't understand but wha is KBB? Thanks.

Thanks for encouragement but this is the most rediculous thing. I think Toyota must be in some kind of problem to be half way through a year and no trucks out to buy. I think I might should hold off and let this settle out. The only other explanation is manufacturing problems--in the process-- that is reducing the factory output. Why else would you have willing customers with cash in hand and refuse to provide product other than simply not being able to.
 
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I must have got lucky

I got $2,700 off sticker plus more for not having the JBL system that truck "had" when it came in. Anyway, I have had none of the problems the others reported. I drive about 90MPH all the time and do not hear the "noise" - but then again I have my tunes so loud can't hear an 18 wheeler next to me :)

I have not seen many TRDs O/R at least . . .on the road.

Don't make a mistake and get something you DON'T want . . .

I have done that in the past :-(

hang tough you will love your new TOY.
 
#17 ·
Toyota got bit hard on the lack of popularity of the T100. Ever since, they have been very slow to ramp up production of new designs. 2000 Tundras were few and far between until mid-year. Prius was also hard to find, and then the redesign for '04 was equally hard to find.

That said, there seems to be no shortage of Tacos on any configuration here in SoCal.
 
#18 ·
Are you looking for a 4x4 long bed in a DC? If so, they are not building long beds with the O/R configuration, only "Sport". If you want the O/R pkg you have to go with a short bed on the double cab.

I'm in the same boat, but I have a dealer that I think is really being pretty honest and helpful - there just doesn't seem to be much inventory available. In fact I got a call the other day from them - I placed my order almost 8 weeks ago (and a $500 deposit) and this was the FIRST allocation of a DC with TRD Sport they got! Unfortunately, it is a short bed. Now I am in a quandary as to whether to settle for the short bed, or wait two more months for the *chance* that they will get allocated the truck I want.

I started back in March with a fax to over 35 dealers in the LA area asking for bids on a 4x4 DC LB with TRD sport package and I only got 2 responses! I check inventory about twice a month, and all I can figure is that the long bed chassis must be made of some rare substance (unobtanium). :cry:
 
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I just ran through "build you own" on Toyota's site and for my zip code, 4X4 V6 DC LB is only available in TRD Sport... no Offroad.

I'd almost be willing to bet that the only difference between TRD sport and TRD Offroad in a 4wd model is the sway bar, which isn't hard to disconnect for serious offroad where you need the articulation. On the Tundra, TRD Offroad consists of heavier springs, shocks, LSD, and 265/70R16 tires. The TRD Sport has a swaybar on the rear end.
 
#21 ·
There really is not that much difference btwn the sport and o/r. The interior is the same. The only difference is a smaller sway bar for the o/r so it will articulate better. The sport option has "sport" tuned bilstiens and the o/r version had a couple skid plates underneath. Other than that they are the same ride height. Oh, and the sport has the 17" wheels and a more highway friendly tire. Other than that they are pretty similar and yes, you can only get a double cab long bed in the sport option, and you get the hood scoop on the sport.

My double cab long bed sport should be in in about a week and a half - cant wait - :tu:

:D
 
#22 ·
use toyota's dealer search, search by state and search the dealers inventories. 4x4, DC, TRD Off-road's aren't hard to come by in this area and there are dealers with 30-40 Tacomas on their lot. A lot depends on their allocations which are based on previous year truck sales. Find the volume truck leader for your 5-state area and you will probably have better luck

Mine's a DC, 4x4, TRD Off-road...had I not been picky about wanting VSC, Curtain Air Bags and only one of two colors, I could have had my choice of trucks from about 7 different dealers within a 100 mile radius.

Keep the faith, get what you want, even it means ordering (preferencing)...that's what I did and it killed me waiting for 6 weeks, but now I have the exact truck I wanted
 
#23 ·
ffproulx said:
There really is not that much difference btwn the sport and o/r. The interior is the same. The only difference is a smaller sway bar for the o/r so it will articulate better. The sport option has "sport" tuned bilstiens and the o/r version had a couple skid plates underneath. Other than that they are the same ride height. Oh, and the sport has the 17" wheels and a more highway friendly tire. Other than that they are pretty similar and yes, you can only get a double cab long bed in the sport option, and you get the hood scoop on the sport.

My double cab long bed sport should be in in about a week and a half - cant wait - :tu:

:D
Thanks guys, I am looking for a TRD DC with short bed. I plan to install a SnugTop Or Leer top with rack for my kayaks and bikes. I still have my trusty 91 but I sold my very nice Tundra TRD AC. A fellow at work insisted on buying it and gave me an excellent price for a primo vehicle. I just never liked full size trucks. The new Taco is the perfect size, small enough to go offroad and large enough to pull my Boston Whaler boat and I hope in normal use maybe a couple of more mpg over the Tundra. I have driven a few non TRD 05s and they really don't have as quiet a ride as my Tundra and the engine is not as smooth. I think some of the extra engine noise is intentional as the Taco is clearly oriented to a youth market. Other than that the Taco had a well controlled and smooth ride, peppy engine and probably the stiffest frame/body structure I have ever come across.
I am not desperate to buy now, I can wait for an 06 if I must. I am not thrilled with the colors available this year either, the silver is nice but the dark blue is kinda purple. I am to picky I know and this paint chipping thing bothers me because I live on a gravel road and they put ground up rock on the roads here in the winter as well.

I further intend to install variable lift coilover shocks up front and may run an add a leaf on the rear. I will probably run 265-75 BFG ATs and ditch the Long trails or Rugged Trails as I did not like them at all on the Tundra. The ATs made the Tundra a different truck entirely as did the lift and I plan not to suffer through 20 to 40,000 miles of those OEM tires again. I also like those Four real guards and side bars.
 
#24 ·
Two4X4 said:
I probably just don't understand but wha is KBB? Thanks.

Thanks for encouragement but this is the most rediculous thing. I think Toyota must be in some kind of problem to be half way through a year and no trucks out to buy. I think I might should hold off and let this settle out. The only other explanation is manufacturing problems--in the process-- that is reducing the factory output. Why else would you have willing customers with cash in hand and refuse to provide product other than simply not being able to.
Two4x4, this is not a Toyota problem but a dealership problem. They give out allocations to your local area based on what they sell. I live in Colorado Springs, and practically every Taco out here (and in Denver) is a 4x4. A majority of those are TRD Off-Road. In fact I see fewer non-TRD, or TRD Sport than the O/R. This is likely because I live in the "mountain states" so I suspect you being in KS is the problem.
I got my '05 for under dealer invoice in January! Just keep looking and consider coming out here to buy.
 
#25 ·
Reread what he's asking for guys... he's looking for a 4x4 DC TRD/OR with a LONG BED.
Go to the Toyota web site and put in your zip code. Mine is 91710, and that option is not available in my area. This is not a dealer problem... it is an issue with Toyota's distribution system. They simply aren't building that option package.

Same goes for the Denver area. The Long bed is only available in 3 configurations... two TRD Sport and one straight SR5.
You can get TRD/OR with the short bed in both markets.
 
#26 ·
Rlockyer said:
Reread what he's asking for guys... he's looking for a 4x4 DC TRD/OR with a LONG BED.
Go to the Toyota web site and put in your zip code. Mine is 91710, and that option is not available in my area. This is not a dealer problem... it is an issue with Toyota's distribution system. They simply aren't building that option package.

Same goes for the Denver area. The Long bed is only available in 3 configurations... two TRD Sport and one straight SR5.
You can get TRD/OR with the short bed in both markets.
I am sorry, if I said long bed that was not correct. I want a TRD O/R DC. These only come with the shorter bed and that is what I am wanting. I saw a beautiful silver one complete with SnugTop and side airbags today at the Home Depot but there was no dealer sticker on it and I gave up waiting for him/her to come out. Sooooo, they exist!
Yes, I suspect Kansaw is a dumping ground for the leftovers no one wants. I have noticed this in other consumer goods here as well, coming from AZ and other places this is a real problem here.