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(I know, I'm reposting something I posted on TN earlier today... Is there anybody on here that doesn't visit TN, also?)

To those with the Hellwig LP-15 Helper Springs - after you installed them, did you feel like you needed to stiffen the front end up at all? I have stock suspension (neither TRD package) and all four corners feel mushy, kinda like driving an big ol' Lincoln. But it's well balanced when the bed is empty. However, when I put 1500 lbs. in the bed and it sags to the bump stops, the front end feels particularly mushy and bouncy. The front end bounces two or three times after I come to a stop at a red light with a full bed.

If I install some LP-15s, will the front-end continue to feel mushy when I have a full load, or will fixing the rear-end squat problem solve the front end from bouncing?
 

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I went with the Super Springs. They are a little more expensive but I think they have much less effect on the ride. From what I have heard the Helwigs make the rear very stiff. I will say with the Super Springs the ride is better with a lot of weight in the bed. With 850 - 1,000 lbs in the back the truck sits pretty close to stock level. While empty, it sits about an inch higher in the rear than stock because the springs are taking the weight of the trucks suspension. With 1,500 lbs in the bed the truck would sag a little but not to the level of being on its bump stops (bump stops are removed with the Super Springs). The most I have had in my Tacoma's bed with the Super Springs on is about 1,200 lbs of rocks, with that weight the truck was pretty level (lower than an empty stock Tacoma, but level because as you know the Tacoma sits a little high in the rear stock) and the ride was good. Also, if you are always going to have a heavy load in your truck they can be set even higher. When I put mine on I accedently installed them that way and with the bed empty it looked like I had a set of 2 inch blocks in the rear.
 

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I, too, have now purchased a set of SuperSprings. I'm posting back under this thread for posterity, to help future-searchers.

SuperSprings are a good bit more expensive than Hellwig helper springs, but from all I read about them, I decided it would be worth the extra cost to have helper springs that (1) are self-adjusting and (2) improve empty ride quality by reducing sway and body roll. Once installed, I have found that the SuperSprings really do improve the handling of the truck versus stock suspension. It corners much more aggressively now with far less body roll and it accelerates better since the rear-end doesn't squat when you give it some gas. With the SuperSprings and an empty bed, the truck no longer has that floaty, grampa's Lincoln-like ride.

With a 1500lb. load in the bed the truck no longer sags to the bumpstops. The full-payload ride quality with SuperSprings feels a lot like the empty-payload handling of the stock suspension. It feels a little floaty, but completely under control. When I filled the bed with stock suspension, the front-end was all over the road. The truck was hard to control. The supersprings eliminate this completely.
 

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Has anyone investigated if SuperSprings will negatively affect the factory warranty on the rear-end suspension?
 

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Has anyone investigated if SuperSprings will negatively affect the factory warranty on the rear-end suspension?
I hope not, the dealership installed mine.
 
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