If you plan to keep your '05 Toyoat for many years, then change oil every 3K.

If not, 5K is fine.

It's my belief that these extended intervals were developed by marketing people to sell cars. People hate paying money for maintenance.

Save $$$ and do your own oil change.

 

If you plan to keep your '05 Toyoat for many years, then change oil every 3K.

If not, 5K is fine.

It's my belief that these extended intervals were developed by marketing people to sell cars. People hate paying money for maintenance.

Save $$$ and do your own oil change.

Every 5,000 miles is what your owners manual says.

Pissing money away to do it at 3,000 miles.

 

any good reason he would tell me that?

3000 mile changes significantly extends the life of not only your internally lubricated engine parts (especially the 4 cylinder timing chain mechanism) , but also it's expensive emission control equipment and engine seals such as the crankshaft rear main seal. These seals are expensive to replace due to the amount of labor involved (e.g. transmission removal).

Be sure not to allow anyone to overfill the engine above the FULL mark on the dipstick because that might defeat the engine seal life extending benefits of 3000 mile oil changes.

 

Thanks for the responses...Kathy in particular. For 20 or so bucks it's worth doing every 3000.

 

3000 mile changes significantly extends the life of not only your internally lubricated engine parts (especially the 4 cylinder timing chain mechanism) , but also it's expensive emission control equipment and engine seals such as the crankshaft rear main seal. These seals are expensive to replace due to the amount of labor involved (e.g. transmission removal).

Old Wives Tales........

Why not change at 1,000 miles then? or 2,000 miles?

Oils are better now and filters are better now.

Maybe you don't need to change the oil -- yet - CNN.com

 

Old Wives Tales........

Why not change at 1,000 miles then? or 2,000 miles?

Oils are better now and filters are better now.

Nobody has said it, but it depends on how the car is used. If all you do is very short trips and it never gets warmed up for long periods of time I would change it at 3000 miles. If you have a long daily drive to work (20+ miles each way) and it's at least 1/2 freeway miles then 5000 miles is OK.

Yes, it is true that oils today are much better and have better additives to help them last longer. If in doubt, send some in for an oil analysis.

 

A shop wants your money, he wants yu to do OCI's at 3K!!!
Is that a hard concept to understand?

An oil analyisis (UOA) is the ONLY way to determine if at 3K your oil is toast.

But, in general, I would recommend 5k with no issue.
Unless severe duty or verey local trips are encountered the majority of driving. Then, 4k would be normaly be an appropriate OCI.


Anyone doing 3k OCI's is just being compulsive and wasting money on an everyday use vehicle. Those days are over. It is needless.

Toyota's can run up to 4 million miles by just keeping the Toyota Reccomended OCI schedule.
Or is it 5 million miles?? not sure Ask Kathyricks....

Kidding aside, if yu really want to know what's prudent, an Oil Analyisis is the best way to judge what is best for YOUR vehicle.

I always use Mobil 1 and a Premium filter. My OCI's are at 5K determined by several reference UOA's that I have done at both 3K and 5K. (after Break-in)

LT

 

A shop wants your money, he wants yu to do OCI's at 3K!!!
Is that a hard concept to understand?

An oil analyisis (UOA) is the ONLY way to determine if at 3K your oil is toast.

But, in general, I would recommend 5k with no issue.
Unless severe duty or verey local trips are encountered the majority of driving. Then, 4k would be normaly be an appropriate OCI.


Anyone doing 3k OCI's is just being compulsive and wasting money on an everyday use vehicle. Those days are over. It is needless.

Toyota's can run up to 4 million miles by just keeping the Toyota Reccomended OCI schedule.
Or is it 5 million miles?? not sure Ask Kathyricks....

Kidding aside, if yu really want to know what's prudent, an Oil Analyisis is the best way to judge what is best for YOUR vehicle.

I always use Mobil 1 and a Premium filter. My OCI's are at 5K determined by several reference UOA's that I have done at both 3K and 5K. (after Break-in)

LT

+1..............

 

If the owner's manual says to change it every 5,000 miles then change it every 5,000 miles.
As long as you use a good quality oil and filter, changing it every 5,000 miles isnt going to reduce the life of your engine.

 

Every 5,000 miles is what your owners manual says.

Pissing money away to do it at 3,000 miles.

5k is fine.
BTWYU have one nice JT Camry, done up with all the niceties. And in nice taste.
Yu don't see too many Japan Camry's around these days.
:tu:

 

Old Wives Tales........Oils are better now and filters are better now.

If engines, oils and filters were getting better then Toyota would be extending oil change intervals, right?

Quite the opposite has happened.:

20 years ago Toyota owners manuals advised 10,000 mile oil change intervals for "normal" service and 5,000 miles for "severe" service.

10 years ago Toyota owners manuals advised 7,500 mile oil change intervals for "normal" service and 5,000 miles for "severe" service.

4 years ago Toyota owners manuals advised 5,000 mile oil change intervals for "normal" service

Toyota's suggested intervals are the maximum allowable mileage intervals the owner must adhere to to keep the 60,000 powertrain warranty in effect. But 5,000 miles is insufficient to confidently enable an owner to get 400,000 -1,000,000 miles of engine life, emission system component life and engine seal life.

Like Mike Murrel said, 5,000 miles is fine for the stereotypical owner who sells their car every 5-10 years or 100,000 - 150,000 miles

And 3,000 miles is for the owner who want the option of keeping their car troublefree for 20-40 years or 400,000 -1,000,000 miles. Example: someone who is 30 and is starting a family and buys a new Toyota and who wishes to have the option of passing on the car to their child when they reach driving age 16-18 years later. And passing on a reliable, mechanically sound car, not a clunker.

 

Car mfrs. and the industry as a whole would want yu to change your oil more frequently because it makes money for them.
It's all about marketting. The European Union laughs at us in the U.S. with 3k OCI's.
It is just unheard of in Europe.
3K is just a compulsive habit that started here in the 60's. When engines were far from the precision engines of today.
The average consumer drives his New car for approx 75K. Then sells it.

Why beat a dead horse???

 

todays oil can now 7500 miles before changing and if you use synthetic you can go 10-15,000 miles BMW Mercdeds and all expensive car now use mobil one oil and go 13,000 to 15,000 miles between oil changes. I DROVE A 86 TOYOTA CRESSIDA TO 429,000 MILES USING MOBIL ONE AND STILL HAD THE SAME ENGINE, TRANSMISSION, POWER STEERING, AND REAR END I USED SYNTHETIC FLUIDS I ALSO RAN ANOTHER CAMARY 250,000 WITH MOBIL ONE AND IT IS STILL ON THE RAOD WITH EVERYTHING ORIGINAL AT 450,000 MILES.

 

todays oil can now 7500 miles before changing and if you use synthetic you can go 10-15,000 miles BMW Mercdeds and all expensive car now use mobil one oil and go 13,000 to 15,000 miles between oil changes. I DROVE A 86 TOYOTA CRESSIDA TO 429,000 MILES USING MOBIL ONE AND STILL HAD THE SAME ENGINE, TRANSMISSION, POWER STEERING, AND REAR END I USED SYNTHETIC FLUIDS I ALSO RAN ANOTHER CAMARY 250,000 WITH MOBIL ONE AND IT IS STILL ON THE RAOD WITH EVERYTHING ORIGINAL AT 450,000 MILES.

:tu::tu:
But, don't let Kathyricks find out!!!:laughing:

 

Supposedly, the oil drain passages in the block are too small or not designed correctly leading to a sludging problem. If you change at 3000 mile intervals the sludging problem doesn't occur but at higher intervals it does. My stepbrother told me about this when they replaced his 98 Camry's engine at 36,000 miles because it had so much blowby. He changed his oil every 5000 miles. Check the recalls for certain years and you will see what it is about.

 

if you use synthetic you can go 10-15,000 miles I DROVE A 86 TOYOTA CRESSIDA TO 429,000 MILES

Did you change the oil every 10-15,000 miles on that Cressida? What was the condition of the engine at 429,000 miles? Still run like new? Still pass a California smog test with ease?

 

Kathy you can change your oil at about 5,000 miles here is a good point someone made up above. If you drive a couple miles a day and don't get the engine hot water will build up in the engine causing sludge. If you drive at least 8-10 miles a day 5,000 miles is fine the dino oils today have been beefed up to run 7,500 miles and synthetic 10,000 to 15,000 miles but the secret is getting the engine hot and getting out the water that builds up when the car cools off at night this is somthing all engines do. Ever notice cars in the morning putting out a steam vapor from the tail pipe or even water coming out this is the water that just comes from the engine cooling off at night. I use Mobil one synthetic oil in my engine and change it every 10,000 miles on my 06 camry.