Do you know if the 2011 model comes with the new cab mounts? If not you could have the tsb performed and see if it helps.
EDIT: Here's a link to that TSB which says 2007-2010. Maybe someone knows if they used the new cab mounts on the 2011. There should be about a million threads on bed bounce though where you can find some more info. I've never experienced it but I definitely feel bad for you guys that do. Good luck to you, and hopefully someone else can be more helpful than me!
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/foru...ns.com/forums/tundra/161453-tundra-tsbs-generation-2-2007-2008-a-2/#post1552587

 

Did I hear somewhere the BBS wheels had issues staying round?

 

Did I hear somewhere the BBS wheels had issues staying round?

I don't know if that's true or not, but I do know the problems I am having are at slower speeds, which I think is unusual. Driving on city streets whether asphalt or cement, if there are even the smallest bumps tey get magified pretty badly in the steering wheel and the cab. I could almost live with the cab bouncing, but the steering wheel feedback is killing me. Really tires you out after driving for an hour or so.

Another thing I noticed is I can really feel engine feedback in the steering wheel as well. I know that may sound weird but that's the onyll way I can explain it. When the engine revs I can really feel it in the steering wheel and it's annoying. My 07 Tundra Dbl Cab never exhibited this and it had the same engine. Now I am wondering if I have suspension or steering issues? Thoughts anyone?

 

2011 Tundra Crewmax TRD 4x4 with 18" wheels/tires. Truck bounce was so bad while driving in eastern Oklahoma on I-40 last November that I wondered whether it was overstressing the whole truck. Our dog, a Sheltie, was bouncing around in the back seat, airborne more than he was on the seat. It's a bad ride all around.

 

What tires does it have? Air pressure? Feeling every crack in the road and the front bouncing around suggests the tires may be over inflated.

 

Part of the harsh ride problem is the fact that you have 20" wheels and rubber band tires. The sidewall on the tire is so much shorter that a 17 or 18" wheel and it translates the roadway up into the wheel and suspension more than anything.

I noticed this in my old Ram as compared to a coworker with 17" wheels. her truck appeared to absorb the road better than mine with 20's. I also took into account that her shocks have never been replaced at 110K and mine were upgraded to Rancho at 60K.

I agree with Maylon, check and see if you have the new body / bed mounts and if not check into the TSB. I have never felt the bed bounce as discussed here and I have spent alot of time in Phoenix on the 202 and 101 and have not felt anything.

 

2011 Double Cab...it does have the new mounts and I don't get near the bounce that you're describing. It will do it some at slower speeds but not anywhere close to the extent that some people say.

And by the way, went golfing with a buddy the other day and rode in his '09 Dakota and over one bump the truck bounced pretty good, not just a Toyota issue! Like I said though, mine isn't even close to bad enough to complain about.

 

Part of the harsh ride problem is the fact that you have 20" wheels and rubber band tires. The sidewall on the tire is so much shorter that a 17 or 18" wheel and it translates the roadway up into the wheel and suspension more than anything.

I was thinking this too. Have you ever had a vehicle with 20" wheels and small sidewall tires? I've never had larger wheels because of the rough ride they give you.

 

My '11 CM rides nicely, and I'm on 18" wheels and 285/65/18 Nittos.

What bugs me is seeing how the bed hops up and down going down certain roads with 'rhythm sections'...looks like it is coming loose or something, even though it's not. Thankfully I don't 'feel it' in the cab.

When I'm towing or have a few hundred pounds back it wouldn't be visibly noticeable. I saw a video where a guy puts a few heavy steel plates in the back, but to me that's a dumb solution and not very convenient if you actually use your bed.

Just the empty bed & my topper for weight isn't enough to settle it - makes me question the design/build quality for that particular part of the truck...must be the main frame rails flexing or something.

 

I don't know if its the 20'' Rims. I switch from the SR5 18'' rims to the Limited 20'' rims at 8800 miles.

I have 19K mile now... I don't have any of these issues. My truck feels like a truck for sure but its not rough. I am sure the tires have more to do with the rough ride, maybe even the tire air pressure. I am running the Bridgestone H/L Alenza tires on my truck. They are the "premium" tire for trucks and SUVs. 35 psi all around.

My daughter sleeps just fine on the most any road surface. She is in a baby seat in the rear of the CM. I did have the TSB done on the cab mounts, but only because I could... not because we were having an issue.

THe 20's could have something to do with it but I don't see it being that dramatic.

 

Update: Took the truck into the dealership and they couldn't find anything wrong. Said that's what it should drive like. I bet they basically just grabbed everything in the suspension to see if it was solid and called it good.

I told them I had a 2007 Tundra and it didn't drive like that at all. And neither does my brother's 2008 Tundra (he drove my truck and said something is wrong). This is a like a bad dream...owning a truck that retails for over $40k and I can't stand to drive it. My arms get tired after about 30 minutes because of all the steering feedback.

Last time if anyone has any idea what I should make them look at:

Symptoms:
- Vibration in steering wheel
- Engine feedback (VERY noticeable) in steering wheel
- Jiggle in steering wheel when the road actually gets bumpy
- Feels like bed bounce when you hit a bump...you can feel the original jolt from the road but then it continues for another half second...like the truck is flexing (like bed bounce)

Does anyone think it could be a combination of the standard shocks and the 20" BBS wheels (from the Oklahoma Edition Package)? I had Bilstein shocks on my 2007 Dbl Cab TRD and the ride was much better on that truck.

Any feedback would be appreciated

 

have them swap a set of 18s from a stock unit onto it and drive it. i bet its the 20s. mine firmed up a little with the 20s from the stock 18s but then again the second set of 18s i had were load range E tires so that made it stiffer too so if i had gone from the OE 18s to these i bet it would be a big difference.

im suprised you didnt test drive the truck before you bought it? if you would have, i bet you would have realized how much you dont like those tires/wheels on there and you would have gotten some that you did like.

 

have them swap a set of 18s from a stock unit onto it and drive it. i bet its the 20s. mine firmed up a little with the 20s from the stock 18s but then again the second set of 18s i had were load range E tires so that made it stiffer too so if i had gone from the OE 18s to these i bet it would be a big difference.

im suprised you didnt test drive the truck before you bought it? if you would have, i bet you would have realized how much you dont like those tires/wheels on there and you would have gotten some that you did like.

The salesman convinced me to get the Oklahoma Edition package and I liked the wheels so I bought it. I never considered the ride would be like it is, and the feedback in the steering wheel is completely whacked.

I talked to the service guys some and they made some very funny suggestions. I thought I would share them with you, and keep in mind I just paid for a $45k truck and have had it for 28 days:

- "You probably need to put some weight in the bed of the truck, right behind the cab. This will make it ride a little smoother"

- "I think it's the tires. We're getting those rims in with the BF Goodrich with more sidewall and they have an awesome ride!"

- "I would just go ahead and switch out the wheels and tires for something else. Of course that could get expensive!"

I thought all of this was quite comical, but I let it ride until I go back in later in the week so I can get something else looked at. Then someone (my salesperson and someone from service) is going to take a ride with me and tell me they want to drive a truck like this for the next 5 years. My left hand and forearm were numb by the time I got home from the feedback in the steering wheel.

The point of all this ranting is there is no way this ride is normal. There is no way this package should be like this. I paid $5k for thie "upgrade" and they are going to do something, whatever it takes, to make me feel like this WAS an upgrade.

I'll keep you posted.

 

There are plenty of people who have those size rims and tires and don't report the trouble your seeing so its definitely something that they need to fix. Good luck.

 

I have stock suspension, 20" wheels and stock tires on a 2011 platinum, rides nothing like you describe. Is there another truck on their lot like yours? Take it for a spin and see it it's better. I don't have any engine vibration in the steering wheel.

 

I put aftermarket 18" wheels on my 2011 Crewmax LTD TRD the day I bought it ... had the dealership take off the 18" TRD wheels and mount the OEM BFG tires on my new wheels.

If you want to consider a set of brand new 18" TRD wheels, let me know and maybe we can work something out. I'm not saying that the 18" wheels will cure your ills, but I think they'll always ride smoother than 20" wheels with low-profile tires. What do you have on your wheels now?--275/45X20, or thereabouts? They ride rough.

 

what tires do u have on it and what is the size? I had 18s on my 08 and now have 20's on my 11. I hate the new ride and I am sure its' the duellers. I loved the 18's but i put michellens on it and I recall a huge diffrence in the ride.

I am going to change the tires out as soon as i can afford to. I miss my comfortable road tire michelines.

good luck, but it probably is the tires, not the rims.

 

- Feels like bed bounce when you hit a bump...you can feel the original jolt from the road but then it continues for another half second...like the truck is flexing (like bed bounce

I believe I get this in my 2010 LTD CM. We have ashphalt highways so most of the cracks are filled in with tar material and aren't consistently occuring.
I can see the movement of the tailgate moving up & down as I hit the bumps in the road, but I've never really paid attention to other trucks movements in the past.

I did find after I installed my Undercover tonneau that the movement seem to be dampered down a bit.

 

I put aftermarket 18" wheels on my 2011 Crewmax LTD TRD the day I bought it ... had the dealership take off the 18" TRD wheels and mount the OEM BFG tires on my new wheels.

If you want to consider a set of brand new 18" TRD wheels, let me know and maybe we can work something out. I'm not saying that the 18" wheels will cure your ills, but I think they'll always ride smoother than 20" wheels with low-profile tires. What do you have on your wheels now?--275/45X20, or thereabouts? They ride rough.

what tires do u have on it and what is the size? I had 18s on my 08 and now have 20's on my 11. I hate the new ride and I am sure its' the duellers. I loved the 18's but i put michellens on it and I recall a huge diffrence in the ride.

I am going to change the tires out as soon as i can afford to. I miss my comfortable road tire michelines.

good luck, but it probably is the tires, not the rims.

I have the Oklahoma Edition BBS 20" wheels with 305/50R20 Michelin tires (you can see they are low profile in my avatar). These are the tires that come with the OK Edition package, and that's why this is so weird. You can't tell me they tested this package out and thought the ride quality was good if the vibration I am feeling is normal. I know the low profile tires will be rougher, but I can accept a rough ride. I expected the ride to be similar to my 2007 TRD, but it is definitely not. That is why I think there is something wrong either with the front suspension or something in the steering setup. I have never felt engine feedback in the steering before, but it horrible. That coupled with the bouncing effect (may be the tires for sure) literally numbs your arm within about 10 miles of the house. My wife doesn't like to drive it either - she had elbow surgery and the vibration hurts her arm.

I waited 2 months for this custom ordered truck. I guess I am going to have to hound the dealership every step of the way. I traded in a 2008 Rav4 Limited with 30k miles for this piece of crap, and they're gonna make it right for me.

 

Symptoms:
- Vibration in steering wheel
- Engine feedback (VERY noticeable) in steering wheel
- Jiggle in steering wheel when the road actually gets bumpy
- Feels like bed bounce when you hit a bump...you can feel the original jolt from the road but then it continues for another half second...like the truck is flexing (like bed bounce)

Does anyone think it could be a combination of the standard shocks and the 20" BBS wheels (from the Oklahoma Edition Package)? I had Bilstein shocks on my 2007 Dbl Cab TRD and the ride was much better on that truck.

Any feedback would be appreciated

This is exactly the way my truck rides. It's the frame flexing. What improved mine was changing to bilstein hd shocks and the erated tires. Mine is far from perfect but the truck doesn't feel like its going to lose control anymore like it did stock.
Try different shocks and see what happens, but I'm afraid your going to be stuck with a truck with serious frame flex like I am. There are probably some quality control issues in these frames which is why some experience it and some don't. If you have it you know it and it sucks.


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This is exactly the way my truck rides. It's the frame flexing. What improved mine was changing to bilstein hd shocks and the erated tires. Mine is far from perfect but the truck doesn't feel like its going to lose control anymore like it did stock.
Try different shocks and see what happens, but I'm afraid your going to be stuck with a truck with serious frame flex like I am. There are probably some quality control issues in these frames which is why some experience it and some don't. If you have it you know it and it sucks.


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Thanks for the comments everyone!

I am taking the truck in today or tomorrow and my salesperson is going to drive it. He's a good guy and I think he will be objective in his evaluation. I talked to him today some and he did say I was the first to complain about the ride on the Oklahoma Edition setup, so that means to me I probably have a unique issue with my vehicle. I will keep everyone updated.

 

I have the same rims and experience what you're talking about "if" the tires are inflated over 45 PSI (load range D). Drop the air pressure between 40 and 45 and you'll be happy. You will probably be happy with 40-42.

 

Drive your truck to the Arkansas-Oklahoma state line on I-40. Then turn around and drive back. Unless Oklahoma has made terrific repaving strides in the last couple of months, you will find that it's a struggle keeping your truck in your lane of traffic at speeds of 70 mph or higher.

 

Update: Took the truck in and had the salesman drive it. He said seems like any other OK Edition Tundra I've driven. So we went out on the lot and grabbed another one with 7 miles on it and drove it around a little. It drove the exact same way! They all bounce, have engine feedback in the steering, and mushy steering. What in the world??? This is the worst riding truck I have ever driven, and I custom ordered the damn thing.

Can all of this be the result of 20" wheels, factory shocks, and low-profile Mich tires? Can I make it better with Bilstein shocks? Which ones do I need to get? I am looking for any reasonable suggestions here.