You don't, it is sealed. Needs changing at 100K

 

You don't, same with the new Tacoma.

 

whoa, the second most expensive component, and I can't check the fluid level? I'm old fashoined I guess.

Thanks for the replies, sealed trans

 

whoa, the second most expensive component, and I can't check the fluid level? I'm old fashoined I guess.

Thanks for the replies, sealed trans

Toyota started to do the sealed aisin tranmission on the 2005 Tundra with vvti and 5 speed the core reason on doing this was to have it all stealed and less effort required on repair's.I mentioned these change on a wile back Ill try to look for my post to aid this topic.

Erik

 

If you think thats bad the new BMWs dont have an oil dip stick. The computer tells you when your oil is low and to add how much.

 

I bet if you look on the side of it, you'll probably find a fill/check plug and on the bottom/back the drain plug. Sort of similar to a manual transmission. To check it, get the transmission warm and pull the fill/check plug and stick your finger in the hole. It should be pretty much right up to the hole to where it almost drips out.

As for it being "lifetime" fluid, that's total BS. Maybe lifetime in the sense if you only keep it for a few years, but for the actual life of it (200k+), that's nonsense. ALL fluids have a life expetency. I'd change it at every 50k at the most unless the owners manual states otherwise. But in no way was the fluid every designed to never be replaced.

 

If you think thats bad the new BMWs dont have an oil dip stick. The computer tells you when your oil is low and to add how much.

BMW makes amazing vehicles

 

Go to Technical post for Engine and Drivetrain and first post explains this Phenom!! Also check Toyotas Required Scheduled Maintenance for service. If ya DIY keep any and all reciepts and sign off your maintenance schedule in you owners manual packet!! Toyota Parts and Service It was a Detroit Engineer that did this to us!! probably the same that designed the remove motor to change freeze plugs engineer. It for sure was not the one that put blinker signals on the outside of the rear view mirrors?? I did hear that some of the design did happen in Detroit and ya can tell but hands down truck to drive!!:tu:

 

BMW makes amazing vehicles

When i sell my S2000, the 335I is on my very short list. But i gotta get a new truck first.

 

BMW makes amazing vehicles

Yes they do and that new 07 7 series is worth every cent esp the unproven I drive which I hear many owners complain about. My friend has a New M powered Bmw I really like it a lot esp since some of the services are included free on oil changes at global bmw/Mini cooper..

Erik

 

I bet if you look on the side of it, you'll probably find a fill/check plug and on the bottom/back the drain plug. Sort of similar to a manual transmission. To check it, get the transmission warm and pull the fill/check plug and stick your finger in the hole. It should be pretty much right up to the hole to where it almost drips out.

As for it being "lifetime" fluid, that's total BS. Maybe lifetime in the sense if you only keep it for a few years, but for the actual life of it (200k+), that's nonsense. ALL fluids have a life expetency. I'd change it at every 50k at the most unless the owners manual states otherwise. But in no way was the fluid every designed to never be replaced.

ummm not quite total bs... if they designed the transmission to stay super cool then the fluid can potentially last forever... you forget that the only reason the lubrication fluid breaks down is because of heat ... and then if you make the fluid out of synthetic this makes it even more durable of a lubricator... i wouldnt be surprised if you never had to change the fluid... but who on this board is willing to take that chance... not i... i will be changing the fluid probably at 50k miles(if/when the dealer recommends me to of course)

 

you can not check the fluid level by the fill plug. your pan has two plug. the larger one is the drain plug. the smaller is the overflow plug. then you have a fill plug near the tail of the transmission with looks like the fill plug of a manual transmission. i will not go into detail on how to service the transmission but i would change the fluid at 30k miles for towing or stop and go traffic or hard driving and 60k for no towing and mainly highway driving. you could go longer then that but i like to keep my trans fluid clean. those are just my opinion as a toyota tech. if you do go 100k, make sure you flush it out rather then drain and fill. the only way to check the fluid condition or color of the fluid is to drain it or pull off the hose to the trans cooler if you don't want to drain all the fluid.

 

Hard for me to understand why a synthetic ATF would need changing at 30K even if extreme conditions were being used ? Guess that's included in Dealers 30K Service Packages for free!!

 

Hard for me to understand why a synthetic ATF would need changing at 30K even if extreme conditions were being used ? Guess that's included in Dealers 30K Service Packages for free!!

its just my opinion. i have seen 05 tundra with 50k-60k miles and when i drain the fluid its brown or dark color. i'm sure the fluid is still good but i don't like to see my trans fluid changing color like that. my opinion is that i rather drain and fill the fluid more often and keep it clean than flushing it out at 100k and have a chance of build up inside the transmission.

 

its just my opinion. i have seen 05 tundra with 50k-60k miles and when i drain the fluid its brown or dark color. i'm sure the fluid is still good but i don't like to see my trans fluid changing color like that. my opinion is that i rather drain and fill the fluid more often and keep it clean than flushing it out at 100k and have a chance of build up inside the transmission.

I agree I had mine done at 30k last dec 06 (drain and refill) and I plan on doing that again at 60k. From what i am told this is the best method from my Toyota service advisor...

 

If you change your transmission oil at 30k, your honestly illiterate and retarded. Toyota uses what is called "World Class Grade" trans. oil. It is specially designed to last the lifetime of the truck. It is recommended by Master Toyota technicians to change it at 100K to prevent any loose particles damaging the trans. Second if you were to change it every 30k you must be rich because the oil is very very very very expensive. If you don't believe me call up your local toyota dealer and ask them how much it would be to change it. i believe off hand it is somewhere in the $600 to $1000 range. Third the trans oil change has to be done in a very specific way at the dealer by a technician to avoid contanmination. if the trans oil or tranny becomes contaminated. kiss your tranny goodbye. that's toyota for ya, sophisticated, technologically advanced and sometimes a pain in the ***.

 

If you change your transmission oil at 30k, your honestly illiterate and retarded. Toyota uses what is called "World Class Grade" trans. oil. It is specially designed to last the lifetime of the truck. It is recommended by Master Toyota technicians to change it at 100K to prevent any loose particles damaging the trans. Second if you were to change it every 30k you must be rich because the oil is very very very very expensive. If you don't believe me call up your local toyota dealer and ask them how much it would be to change it. i believe off hand it is somewhere in the $600 to $1000 range. Third the trans oil change has to be done in a very specific way at the dealer by a technician to avoid contanmination. if the trans oil or tranny becomes contaminated. kiss your tranny goodbye. that's toyota for ya, sophisticated, technologically advanced and sometimes a pain in the ***.

Hey let's Not us those choice of word's on Ts please there is enought Drama running on these forums the whole transition can appear to be somewhat flamed from certain perople who display that :ts: if you say that Retarded Etc .. The 2005 up Fluid is "Ws fluid" which is designed in term's to be Longer anything before that year will break down.Also to my standard's it's cheap to have the Drain and Refill done try $80 dollar's to have that service performed every 30k and overall worth it since I get a service Discount because I use them for other services.Toyota you got to love them....

 

If you change your transmission oil at 30k, your honestly illiterate and retarded. Toyota uses what is called "World Class Grade" trans. oil. It is specially designed to last the lifetime of the truck. It is recommended by Master Toyota technicians to change it at 100K to prevent any loose particles damaging the trans. Second if you were to change it every 30k you must be rich because the oil is very very very very expensive. If you don't believe me call up your local toyota dealer and ask them how much it would be to change it. i believe off hand it is somewhere in the $600 to $1000 range. Third the trans oil change has to be done in a very specific way at the dealer by a technician to avoid contanmination. if the trans oil or tranny becomes contaminated. kiss your tranny goodbye. that's toyota for ya, sophisticated, technologically advanced and sometimes a pain in the ***.

as i stated before, its my opinion. i am as certified toyota tech working at at toyota dealership. i can get the fluid really cheap and i can do the service my self with the proper special service tool and know the proper procedure. if your are paying $600-$1000, than you are getting ripped off. msrp on WS fluid should be no more than $8 a quart.

 

its just my opinion. i have seen 05 tundra with 50k-60k miles and when i drain the fluid its brown or dark color. i'm sure the fluid is still good but i don't like to see my trans fluid changing color like that. my opinion is that i rather drain and fill the fluid more often and keep it clean than flushing it out at 100k and have a chance of build up inside the transmission.

we were talking 30K in original post? and the deceptive dealer practises during the SPECIAL 30K, 60K & 90K DEALS that they offfer for outrageous prices, the ones that they charge you extra for fluid!! I can understand 50K or 60K but 30K is a tad early unless you have more $$ than ya need. So how does the fluid look at 30K, i would be surprised if their was any difference from 60K!! If yo tow a bunch i could see this being a great thing to do but not a lotta people tow heavy with Tundras YET!!

 

I can understand 50K or 60K but 30K is a tad early unless you have more $$ than ya need.

I never let a new vehicle go longer than 30K on the original ATF. It's just a personal preference. I like to get the original fluid out as it has all the contaminates in it from the tranny wearing it. I've always done this myself so I have seen what comes out of the bottom of the pan and seen what the filter looks like. You would be suprised if you saw it.

I might have to let the dealer do it this time as the Toyota mech made it sound as if I wouldn't be able to do it. I'm hoping 96T100 could shed a little light on this for me. What do you say 96T100, is there some special equipment needed on the 07s?

 

I never let a new vehicle go longer than 30K on the original ATF. It's just a personal preference. I like to get the original fluid out as it has all the contaminates in it from the tranny wearing it. I've always done this myself so I have seen what comes out of the bottom of the pan and seen what the filter looks like. You would be suprised if you saw it.

I might have to let the dealer do it this time as the Toyota mech made it sound as if I wouldn't be able to do it. I'm hoping 96T100 could shed a little light on this for me. What do you say 96T100, is there some special equipment needed on the 07s?

all 2005 up Ws 5 speed and 6 speed (07 tundra) fluid aisin transmission need to be serviced from Toyota and I will have them do this every 30k on mine you pay to kept it too last ..

 

If you think thats bad the new BMWs dont have an oil dip stick. The computer tells you when your oil is low and to add how much.

very true i have 2006 m5 no oil no trans dipstick ....but also 350z has no trans dip stick and that one is 2004

 

I bet if you look on the side of it, you'll probably find a fill/check plug and on the bottom/back the drain plug. Sort of similar to a manual transmission. To check it, get the transmission warm and pull the fill/check plug and stick your finger in the hole. It should be pretty much right up to the hole to where it almost drips out.

actually you have to have your tranny completly cold, then start the truck up. right as the tranny hits normal operating temp ( this matters for some reason, cant be after driving for awhile ) you pull the raised drain plug on the tranny pan. ( there is two, one of them is obviously raised ) if fluid barely trickles out, its perfect. if nothing comes out, add, and if a ton comes out, let it drain until it almost stops. sorry had to add that

 

very true i have 2006 m5 no oil no trans dipstick ....but also 350z has no trans dip stick and that one is 2004

Nothin' new. My 92 E34 (525iT) had no trans dip stick, it did still have an oil dipstick.

 

I never let a new vehicle go longer than 30K on the original ATF. It's just a personal preference. I like to get the original fluid out as it has all the contaminates in it from the tranny wearing it. I've always done this myself so I have seen what comes out of the bottom of the pan and seen what the filter looks like. You would be suprised if you saw it.

I might have to let the dealer do it this time as the Toyota mech made it sound as if I wouldn't be able to do it. I'm hoping 96T100 could shed a little light on this for me. What do you say 96T100, is there some special equipment needed on the 07s?

it's just a container that has a pump and a threaded end so you can pump the fluid in easier. you can do without it but it's easier with the container. you can purchase the container at your dealer if you ask but not sure how much it cost. on the 5.7 with tow package, you have to bypass the transmission heater when you service your transmisison fluid. if your asking why a transmission fluid heater it's to heat the fluid quicker when its cold and it shut or close the coolant side with a thermostat.