[micron929rr]

Well, Im not gonna argue with you anymore because you seem like you know everything...if you're yelling at me....but the toyota remote start sucks

the viper has not given me one problem...and the engine keeps running when you open the door...doesnt make it any easier for someone to steal!! you still have to push the brake to shift....starting the car is the easy part of stealing it!!

so, having the car engine shut when the doors open does nothing different than running when it opens, just is a pain in the *** to start it again and not the best thing for your car day in and day out...

once the car is started the alarm arms itself and if the door is open with disarming first it shuts off! so before you go talking **** to everyone get your facts straight...that is all, pass on thru, sorry for posting this to everyone else

 

[guntech]

jonesark, you are correct - double starting your truck is a hassle and adds twice the wear on some of your truck parts.
crewmaxltd07, I have heard the same thing that your wife was talking about from several different people. I have also heard from a Toyota tech that the aftermarket ones are not a good idea because of the CAN system (or something like that).
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

[tooldud]

Wow a lot of passion here! My favorite old comment is " locks keep honest people honest". I have had many aftermarket alarms with lots of cool convince features. The remote start is a fun convenience. It seems the factory system is not as convenient. I also agree it is more wear on the starter and battery. Maybe it's a ploy with the starter and battery companies LOL!

 

[Chris 345]

Anyone got a Viper system on their 07 T ??

 

[CrewMaxLTD07]

You are so far off of the reservation its not even funny. If a thief really wants to steal your car then he'll do it. Anyway I thought your whole point was that the remote start cuts out to keep it from getting stolen. Now you are saying that all the protection in the world cannot keep a thief from stealing the car. WTH?

Besides, if you see a guy carrying around a three foot crow bar, who can ALSO drive a car somewhere without touching the brakes, AND activate the car without the chipped key, AND "muscle" the transmission into drive, AND break into a locked car and do all of that while the owner is 500 feet away then the last thing you need to worry about is your car's engine running when he gets to it. You must know some kind of Grand Theft Auto Ninja.

So stop hijacking this thread, we all know your wacko opinions, now head to another thread while we try to solve this guys issue.

Just be glad you are the :suburban warrior:.
My whole point.. is the feature isn't as bad as everyone think.
Its a safety first issue.. convenience 2nd. im sure toyota is covering
their backs.. But realistically.. If you have to put your key in anyways.
SO WHAT if you have to restart the car??
Its laughable.. how some of you think "more wear on the starter"
Boohoohooo. If you are that concerned about shiney nickle pinching.
Maybe you should of bought a PRIUS.. How about not drive at all??

in todays society, car jackings and car theft is real.
Maybe Toyota is ahead of the curve..

im out..:devil:

 

[hrjrkr]

I agree with the having to restart after opening door. Has anybody had any problems with the distance to start the darn thing. I had a remote starter on my 01 Tundra and I could start it about 500'. Toyota says you have to be 80' or less. I live in a condo complex and my 07 Tundra is parkeda about 200' and I can't start it from inside the house. I have to be 80' or less. It is useless for me.

 

[hrjrkr]

the stock alarm also requires 80' or less.

 

[Flash333]

im out..:devil:

Thank goodness. That's all we were asking for.

 

[ag4ever]

The not hitting the brakes is a joke.

If you want to defeat the brake turing the engine off, just cut the lines from the brake switch and the computer won't know you have the brakes applied. Then you also won't have any brake lights, but a thief does not care, he just wants to get the truck to the chop shop as fast as possible.

i had a remote starter on a car in the past, sur eit is nice at times, but now I would rather not burn the extra fuel and get extra wear on my engine from letting it sit there and idle while it warms up. I believe an engine should be warmed up while driving slowly out of the neighborhood.

But at the same, time it is stupid for the engine to turn of when the door is unlocked!

Does it turn off if you manually unlock the door with the key instead of the FOB?

 

[mxsjw]

Does it turn off if you manually unlock the door with the key instead of the FOB?

Yes.

There is no way the stock system will let you remote start it and drive off. You always have to use the key and restart.

But...there has to be a way to defeat the saftey start on the factory system, short of ripping it out and reinstalling an aftermarket.

Someone will figure it out, they always do.

 

[blackgts2002]

Cutting it wont work, it needs to be grounded to NOT come on. When you cut the lights would come on.

 

[TS Support]

There is no need for a discussion on remote starters to lead to insults. If you can contribute positively to the thread then post.

 

[ag4ever]

So they turn the lights on by breaking the ground and creating an open circuit?

That would mean the brake lights are controlled by the computer.

I just don't see that happening, but then again, I have not seen the wiring diagrams for these trucks.

But either way, if you close the circuit to keep them off, then you would just have to get a wire to short out the circuit, just scrape the wires and short them to ground.

That is sad that even manually unlocking the door causes the engine to shut down.

Sounds like an aftermarket remaote starter would be the way to go on these trucks.

 

[Rotorfixer]

The not hitting the brakes is a joke.

If you want to defeat the brake turing the engine off, just cut the lines from the brake switch and the computer won't know you have the brakes applied. Then you also won't have any brake lights, but a thief does not care, he just wants to get the truck to the chop shop as fast as possible.

i had a remote starter on a car in the past, sur eit is nice at times, but now I would rather not burn the extra fuel and get extra wear on my engine from letting it sit there and idle while it warms up. I believe an engine should be warmed up while driving slowly out of the neighborhood.

But at the same, time it is stupid for the engine to turn of when the door is unlocked!

Does it turn off if you manually unlock the door with the key instead of the FOB?

Well , I had to leave TS for a while, because I was going to light myself on fire over useless comments posted in a forum where someone is ligitematly looking for usefull advice. So .... an engine "should" be warmed up by "driving" driving it out of the neighborhood slowly ???? Seriously ?? you think letting it idle while the oil and internal comonents are coming up to temp is a waste ??? I guess you don't know much about enignes huh'. I own an 07 LTD, and unfortunatly I got the factory system, I would love for someone to contribute to this thread in a productive mannor, as the system is beyond flawed. I live in northern Canada and am fully aware of the advantages of warming up your engine (which in turn warms your tranny fluid aswell) before even thinking of moving it when it is -40C. It is allready snowing here, and would love to hear of any solutions or mods that any intellegent person might want to contribute.

 

[Rotorfixer]

Does anyone know who makes a good two way system @ 2,000 ft. for the 07's????

 

[ag4ever]

Rotorfixer, I am so glad you decided to add some usefull information to the thread!

I guess you know more about me than I do, and you apparently know everything about engines and whether it is good for them to sit and idle or if is just as good to drive away at reasonable speeds.

Try letting a diesel sit and idle for an extended period of time without an AIC, and see what happens. Ever heard of wet stacking?

 

[zpaul]

BTW you sir are a FONZANOON. I will give you a shiny nickel if you can tell me what that is.

I know what it is....:tu:

1:definition A person that bites their fart bubbles in the bath tub or in any water.

 

[Rotorfixer]

Rotorfixer, I am so glad you decided to add some usefull information to the thread!

I guess you know more about me than I do, and you apparently know everything about engines and whether it is good for them to sit and idle or if is just as good to drive away at reasonable speeds.

Try letting a diesel sit and idle for an extended period of time without an AIC, and see what happens. Ever heard of wet stacking?

ok .... I never said I knew everything about engines, but it is my profession, only mine fly. It is common sense, and I tried to spur some realistic conversation here as I am interested in what the origional poster was after, not people making ridiculous claims that it is better to drive away in a cold vehicle, people want to learn on here, I'd like to see them learn usefull, correct info.

As to your ridiculous comments about diesels... these aren't diesels and for your information I have personally blown up a 6.0L powerstroke from carbon build up from idling at -45 for two days strait... what is your point exactly and how does this relate to a gasoline engine?? oh ya ... it doesn't.

 

[tundraexpress]

I live in northern Canada and am fully aware of the advantages of warming up your engine (which in turn warms your tranny fluid aswell) before even thinking of moving it when it is -40C. It is allready snowing here, and would love to hear of any solutions or mods that any intellegent person might want to contribute.[/QUOTE]

This is a volatile thread! All I have to add is this: My 2000 4.7 Tundra had what I believe was Piston slap in the winter, I am in atlanta so winter is mild. So far, what I hear in my 07 5.7 on cool mornings is that it will do the same thing. Plus I have already seen some Threads on the slapping issue on the
07's. I think the remote start is a good idea to let it warm up so before moving the oil warms/thins before you ramp up the rpm's.

As for the engine cutting out when you unlock the doors that is a stupid feature. Maybe the solution is to power down the drivers window and climb in that way. Or would it work to key fob the doors to the unlocked position and then hit the remote start so that they are unlocked already? This is an obvious solution, and prob won't work, but I am just asking, so don't slay me.

 

[mxsjw]

Maybe the solution is to power down the drivers window and climb in that way. Or would it work to key fob the doors to the unlocked position and then hit the remote start so that they are unlocked already? This is an obvious solution, and prob won't work, but I am just asking, so don't slay me.

The former just gave me an idea, I will let you all know in the morning...

The latter won't work, as the remote start button is the lock button on the fob. You push "lock" twice then push it again and hold to start remotely. Nice thought though.